Sunday, November 25, 2018

Does present science prohibit FTL communication except via entanglement?


A leading scientist asked us that, in a discussion group on brain and consciousness. My reply:

Because I have deep respect for what you have been doing, I will try to add a bit more precision to this discussion.



Under the most mainstream, solid versions of QED (which I do not believe in), it is simply impossible to send actual information FTL (let alone backtime, which is more or less equivalent ) WITH OR WITHOUT ENTANGLEMENT. 

X.. previously asked what we can learn about time from the classic work of Scully, Shih and others on quantum delay eraser, published in January 2000 in PRL. Shih himself, who did the experiment, had an intuitive feeling that it should be possible to send bits back through time, based on his work, and we funded him to try: https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=0084447 .  But it would not work that way. Lots of us reviewed the math in great detail, and agreed that this would not work. More generally, the book by J.S. Bell really is the definitive story here, explaining how what "feels" like a backwards time influence is not. 

But what happens when gravity and QED are accounted for together? Bottom line: no one has any right to say they know. The proper unified theory to unify gravity and QED has been much debated and much studied, but certainly not resolved. Lots of strong opinions, just opinions. 

But what happens when we go for a different theory of quantum measurement than the usual Heisenberg version? This is about what Henry Stapp quotes Von Neumann as calling "Process I." If Process I is a classical Markov process, as in what has been used in all successful predictions of experiments to date by quantum physics (not counting some of the recent quantum optics stuff not yet in journals), then it does not allow FTL, or BTT, or anything like a vehicle through which mind would express itself. (Maybe some upgrading of the lower-level hardware of the brain and such, as important as other key bits of lower level hardware, but no more.).

What motivations would justify anyone to look for alternative models of process I? 

One is the HOPE that mind really does express itself somehow specially through collapse events. But saying that gravity causes collapse does not help, unless it is further assumed that gravity represents mind. Dean Radin has tried to show an effect of mind on collapse, by buying an SPDC kit and doing a PK kind of experiment, but on quick reading, the results seem no different in nature from earlier work on more mundane PK experiments from places like Princeton PEAR long ago and George Weissman. 

My motivation in wanting to change the model of measurement is very different. It started out as "Bohmian," wanting to test the hypothesis that local realistic models are still allowed empirically (as DeBroglie and Bohm and Einstein all argued for), which logically means revisiting the so-called "causality" assumption in the CHSH theorem, the real basis for all the Bell's Theorem arguments against the DeBroglie/Bohm/Einstein view. 

My fundamental paper on this, an open access paper in a leading physics journal,
has a higher citation count than anything Sarfatti has ever published, none of which was in any of the core journals of basic physics. 

But exactly when I wrote that paper, I realized that the problems with the usual model of Process I go far beyond the concerns of "Bohmians." 

In fact... EITHER the experiments which can test my version of time-symmetric physics do favor my version, OR ELSE Process I CANNOT BE DERIVED as the outcome of Process II (the dynamics). That would imply that there really is a kind of magic in quantum measurement (from Magic Schoolbus to Magic Sunglasses? Really?) which defies the physics which applies to more mundane physical objects (Process 2, Boltzmann, etc.). If it really did come out that way, we really need to know, because it forcibly sends us back to the weirdisms of Deepak Chopra, of Swedenborg (real "What Dreams May Come" by Matheson), or implicitly the movie Inception (which I recommend very highly to anyone interested in taking weirdism seriously, not just as a matter of academic posturing). Would Shiva really choose the sleeping Vishnu over Deutsch and Einstein/Bohm both? 




There are of course lots of precognition data showing FTL sending of signals. The problem with that data is that for reasons I don't understand the folks doing those experiments seem reluctant to involve friendly skeptics like me in helping with the design and implementation of the experiments. 


Radin says they tried that kind of thing, but when the skeptic is convinced, he then becomes "just another believer" to the quasi-gestapo of Randi-ites. 
I was a very strong skeptic myself before 1967. I do wonder how George is doing lately. Seriously. Maybe we both should have paid more attention to his invitations. 

Best regards,

From Obama and Zuckerberg to Oumuamua and ZuckerBorg

Did you know that this image is "fake news"? Until last week, I unconsciously assumed that images like this in the press of the strange object Oumuamua which recently passed through our solar system were "real" pictures, as real as the carefully constructed map of dark matter in the cosmos which I have used many times lately. But no, they are all a kind of artist's imagination. (My thanks to the artist who did label HIS version as what it is.) I woke up to this this past week, when I finally listened to google constantly asking me to click on a new piece from Scientific American:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/6-strange-facts-about-the-interstellar-visitor-oumuamua/. From that piece, I saw that we don't even know the SIZE of the object within a factor of two, let alone the details of its shape. And so, it is not so impossible that it MIGHT have been an alien starship after all. (I certainly know to filter out all the  nonsense placebo propaganda out there, trying to keep everyone on earth calm about everything except for whatever wars are desired by local apparatchiks.)

Real science demands that we find it easy to engage in "what if?" thinking, even though it also demands that we not get too committed to any of the possibilities. (There is a great little new book, Out of The Maze by Johnson, which is really clear in explaining some things I wish that everyone knew. Levitin's book, The Organized Mind, is more balanced but also more complicated, and not as clear on these particular basic points.)

And so, by reflex, I asked myself "What IF this were a spacecraft? What might it be doing?"
More precisely, when a friend far away asked me that question, I replied:

**IF** Oumaumau was a spacecraft, I could make up three stories...

First: mission: search for intelligent life and make contact if so. After six months of seeing CNN, Fox News, RT and CCTV, it decides there is no intelligent life on earth. Due diligence almost complete. Open notice to potential developers that the land is clear. 

(Later she raised the question: why did you leave out the possibility of a big alien invasion, which even Hawkings and Cixin Liu and Orson Scott Card warn about?  Would the new censors at Facebook, still quite active, allow Ronald Reagn to post his views of this: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/reagan-and-gorbachev-agreed-pause-cold-war-case-alien-invasion-180957402/. She said "I suppose a high culture galaxy might have rules about such things?" That's my point. Human developers sometimes need a permit from surveyers, who come and verify that the land is not already occupied. If there is nothing more conscious or intelligent than a rabbit, they may give notice that developers can do anything they want, rabbits or no rabbits. If the gap between human adults and a true sapient is greater than the gap between humans and rabbits...  who knows?)


Second story: like Three Body Problem and Dark Forrest, which Obama and Zuckerberg strongly urged us all to read. (I did after my wife concurred.)
Mission: detect possible threats or competition to wipe out. Outcome: leave them alone, they are no threat to anyone else. They possess the core technologies and science to be a real force, but their lack of affective evolution makes them threats only to themselves, not to anyone else.

Third story: left for the imagination, albeit more plausible.

At the end of the day, I would lean towards a different story, even assuming in the "what if" context of assuming that it really was an alien spacecraft. I would tend to expect a level of intelligence and complex thinking beyond either story one and story two, including even some knowledge of quantum mechanics and macroscopic Schrodinger cats and noospheres (plural). But it would be closer to story one than story two. After all, there is no law against surprise either in physics or in human history. 

Related to story one, I was deeply disappointed when facebook refused to allow me to link to my prior blog post, written in a hurry, responding to the really scary urgent drumbeat to side with Erdogan over Prince Mohammed, in the prince's struggle to stay alive and in powder despite really scary pressure from people responsible for more than one murder. (I even got invited somehow a few months back to an out-of-the-office meeting organized by a key figure in US intelligence, where we learned a lot about Erdogan's own crimes and attempted crimes. I know not to say TOO much more,  but I gave citations.) I was very much relieved when the Financial Times explained a bit more:

https://www.ft.com/content/041d9b1c-e994-11e8-885c-e64da4c0f981

(Hey, guys, why try to censor THAT link? More folks read FT than read even my Facebook page, no?) Definers Public Affairs, a conservative group... but what kind of conservative group would outlaw posts agreeing with Trump, and sharing one of his key concerns? What kind of conservative group wants a war between US and Israel versus Russia and Iran? And how did Zuckerberg let that happen?

Well, I have a pretty good idea how that happened. I saw his face in front of Congressional grilling. (I have learned a whole lot simply by watching faces at Congressional hearings, which I did attend a whole lot in 2009 when I was a staffer sitting behind senators.)  The same kind of pressure was applied in past years to a number of government agency heads.

The pressure reminded me of the Borg in Star Trek. "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." So he let them install wires into... not his head, but his organization, as did certain agency heads I could actually name. NOT Joe Bordogna; they really hated him for having the spine to say "no." One of our last true patriots? Story one MIGHT  change if they brought him back and, more important, brought in surgeons and forensics fully able to burn out all those Borg wires, trace them to their source, and burn them out of other agencies as well. Anyone who truly supports freedom in America, and the basic principles of John Stuart Mills, would agree. But will Facebook allow me to link to THOSE sentiments? Are THESE IDEAS prohibited? A rather interesting "what if" question, perhaps more actionable than the first one in this post. Though FT already has taken some action...

By the way, the woman I mentioned raised an important if awkward question: 

"As a Quaker, you would naturally be suspicious of folks who want an immediate gung ho war between US and Israel versus Russia and Iran. OK, you agree with Trump about Russia and Prince Mohammed, but what about Iran?"

My reply: yes, that's an important complication here. Years ago, I was struck by some amazing similarities between US and Iran (though we don't quite have a fundamentalist theocracy installed in our legal system YET... close enough). Very spiritually attuned, good people, with a tradition of very high culture and free thought, and social strength. But both oppressed by really grotesque gestapos which pose a problem for the entire world, themselves included. Both "headed" by presidents who, despite differences in personalities, mean well but have problems in controlling their respective gestapos. On balance, the Iranian guy may have a better idea of what is really going on; if HIS gestapo let HIM have a deep conversation with Prince Mohammed, in a secure place without fear of what Brezhnev did to Khrushchev (see the movie "grey wolves"), maybe there would be some hope for sanity and even self-rule on this planet. 

Also: an important clarification. I do NOT hold that the "wires" are controlled by civil servants, by the deep state. Rather, from observing what goes on in many US government agencies, I know that there are many new "wires" which are controlled from outside the agencies themselves. 

Thursday, November 22, 2018

response to a question about how body and soul are connected

A writer on a neuro discussion list with a heavy emphasis on physics asked: 
You also talk about the importance of the soul but I am not sure exactly
how you model the connection between consciousness and the material body -
Is it in one of your articles?
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Thanks .. for asking a very good question.

First, I do not believe that any of us justified in proclaiming
certainty, in giving 100% commitment to any one model of this
connection. I explain that preliminary aspect in more detail in:
================
P.Werbos (2018), Quantum Measurement, Consciousness and the Soul: A
New, Alternative Position, submitted by invitation to S. Klein and C.
Cochran, eds, Festschrift for Henry Stapp. Draft preprint at
http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.20636.39043
Accepted for publication in Activitas Nervosa Superior, in special issue
Festschrift for Heny Stapp.

=================

Second, it does depend on what we assume about the ultimate laws of
physics. My personal subjective view is that there is about 1/3
probability that we do ultimately live in some kind of Fock space, as
mainstream quantum physics basically assumes. But about 1/3
probability also that Einstein and deBroglie were right in claiming we
can explain those complex things as a kind of emergent statistical
outcome of "classical field theory," of dynamics over curved Minkowski
space (possibly adding just a few more dimensions, though I see no use
for that extension right now). I also assume about 1/3 probability
that "weirdism" (like what Deepak talks about in terms too vague for
me to use much) will ultimately prove to be true. Unlike Jack, I am
unable to have a strong conviction that all three are true at the same
time, though I also understand how a model which is not ultimately
true might have some practical use in describing life in a cosmos
governed by another.

Based on personal experience and observing others, I rarely pay
serious attention (<1 and="" idea="" probability="" psychic="" soul="" span="" that="" the="" to="">
experience do not exist.

And so: **IF** everything which exists is governed by hard core laws
of physics (as in Fock OR Einstein theories), HOW COULD SOUL AND
PSYCHIC PHENOMENA EXIST?

In that case, I really can think of only one explanation, included in
the slides I delivered two weeks ago, attached, the keynote talk which
introduced the conference http://la-cci.org/(which paid for the trip).
It is what I now call the noosphere species theory. I also discussed
it in two papers which are citeable but not widely indexed:
http://www.werbos.com/Mind_in_Time.pdf (published in Russia)
and
P. Werbos, 2017, Unification of Objective Realism and Spiritual
Development, http://scsiscs.org/conference/index.php/scienceandscientist/2017/paper/view/166/53
If you go to https://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/ and search on
"noosphere," you will see many many posts giving more details of the
noosphere species theory and how it works out.

The key idea is that we humans (those of us who are not spiritual
zombies) are a SYMBIOTIC life form, similar to Dante's phrase "half
beast half angel." Both alive, and both conscious to a certain level.
The "angel" part is a true life form, composed of dark matter and dark
energy. Further, the main "angel" part is not really a personal soul,
but a "noosphere", a connected biological entity spanning the entire
earth or even the entire solar system, the product of more or less
Darwinian evolution across the vast ocean of dark energy and dark
matter. Jack might logically complain that I do not explain the
physical details of how an image across the earth actually propagates,
meter by meter, from its source to a remote viewer; a totally complete
understanding would do that, but Jack does not do that either. For
now, it is already an advance to understand a bit more clearly what
goes on at the noosphere brain level, as the neural networks of the
noosphere operate in a way which is more intelligible after one
understands neural networks (which Jack doesn't).

All humans are conscious to some degree (with a small population of exceptions
in comas and such), but the nature and degree of connection to
personal soul (a local lobe or cell of noosphere) and to noosphere in
general varies a lot, as we can see if we open our eyes. Just as the
level of mundane sanity varies a lot across humans, the quality and
intensity of connection to soul also varies. In my view, "second
order" sanity is basically what the Rosicrucians call "Alchemical
marriage", an effective Pareto optimal symbiosis.
The effective physical principle of interaction underlying this is NOT
any kind of collapse of wave functions or gravitic effect or even
pilot wave; rather, it is evolved biological capability of noospheres
to exploit the interaction of dark matter and ordinary matter in order
to establish an input/output channel with our bodies, most notably
with neurons.

It may sounds strange at first, but it works. None of the others do.
It also fits a whole lot better with millennia of experience, and
sheds light on it in ways that fuzzy noncausal explanations do not.

Enough for now. Again, thanks for asking. Best regards,

    Paul

=======================

Of course, if the Copenhagen model of measurement is truly,
objectively and decisively vindicated, that really proves "weirdism"
to an incredible degree. I have thought recently about what they
really would imply...

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It is not a complete mathematical theory like MQED. Actually, QFT
itself is not complete, insofar as it gives us a choice of possible
Hamiltonians. In the same way, the noosphere species theory allows for
many variations. I suppose I give 70% probability or so to the idea
that the noosphere species theory does explain the "soul" and the
GENERAL details of interface between soul and brain/body.

The noosphere species theory does not give us the Hamiltonian of the
cosmos, as Jack claims he does. I agree with Jack that this makes it
incomplete as a theory of physics. But it is not a theory of physics.
It ASSUMES the existence of cdark matter and dark energy


Thursday, November 1, 2018

What do you get when you cross a marine with a cannibal? Bora Bora.



What do you get when you cross a marine with a cannibal?
Quick reaction: you don’t want to find out, Run!
Actual outcome: a real estate developer.

Yesterday (Oct 21 as I wrote this), our boat tour guide, Aro, proud to be 100% native of Bora Bora, told us that in 1942 2,000 cannibals lived on the island, and 6,000 marines. So now it is 12,000 people, 30% of mixed origin. (Reminds me of Trier/Salsburg area where Werbos family came from, but Roman Republic legionnaires weren’t exactly marines. I think.) The row of modernized tikis which you see to the left is one of many modern hotels; I think the right is Matira beach.

He pointed at another island "There they grow pineapples." To another: "There they grow breadfruit." (Or was it something else? ) "Here we grow resorts. All those little beaches and motus (small islands) which used to be public, where all the people would come, now they are all private, verboten, mainly hotels. There is still one public motu left, however, and there we will have lunch."

It was a great lunch, much better than any lunch on the cruise ship in two months. Simple and natural but tasty and healthy. Best was a dish standard in the area; one of the other tourists said "that’s the usual poisson cru, their version of ceviche." Fresh raw tuna marinated with special sauce and just the right amount of live-feeling salad type ingredients, which we spooned onto a leaf "plate" they put together on site. (They made a little show of how to do it, along with the usual coconut show. ) There was also an interesting desert no one explained, two varieties of coconut bread, and maybe 6 more boring choices for tourists who prefer boring. (I did try a little grilled local fish, but just a little, skipped chicken and beef.)

In fact, the whole motu itself seemed simple and natural, rustic, with buildings and bathroom huts which seemed all natural (except for discrete, clean plumbing), rather different from real rustic bathrooms I have seen anywhere. Our guide admitted that this motu was not really public, public only for us, as the tour company rented the use of it at times.

As he circumnavigated the entire island, he told us that there are just three population centers -- the harbor, the airport and his village, a small part of a large calm lagoon which looked circular to us from the boat. In all directions, the shoreline was covered with a kind of standard issue thatched hut, typically renting for $2000 per night (many with transparent floors to see the water). "That one is the Intercontinental, that is St. Regis, the top one.." I recognized all the names, but forget them now. "They choose this area because it is protected from cyclones by my tower (a rocky mountain)," but we also saw them all around the rest of the island -- EXCEPT for Matira Beach, a true public beach, the most exciting point for me in my one and only previous visit to Bora Bora two weeks ago.

The safe lagoon was also dense with coral reefs. The snorkeling was far better than anything I have ever experienced elsewhere, except for St. John’s in the Caribbean, where I remembered even more color and biodiversity. That fits with what other people tell me on the cruise ship who have been all around the world.

At the motu, even without a snorkel mask, I could walk into shallow clear lagoon water from the motu with my water shoes, go reasonably far out and still see lots of fish and coral very clearly. Of course I had to look closely to watch where I was stepping, and not touch the coral. Feeling and watching little currents and waves, as I stopped and as I perturbed things, was part of the exercise. (I saw no coral or even fish at Matira beach; all soft white sand, but stronger currents. Like a big baby toy in its way.)

The boat trip yesterday started with a drive beyond the coral reef surrounding Bora Bora, to the Pacific, snorkeling with sharks. All I saw were moderate sized blackfin sharks, cousins to the bigger ones I had seen two weeks ago snorkeling around Mo’orea,  my first really competent snorkeling. (I had real problems on three snorkeling days before that, due to sea sickness. Some combination of ginger candy, sea bands and experience got rid of the main problem, but I still never lasted as long as I did at St. John’s years ago.

Luda stayed out just a little longer than me in the Pacific snorkel. She says she also saw a much bigger shark, a lemon shark, far below us.

After the Pacific snorkel, the boat took us to a standard tourist delight, a shallow place with a little coral where sting rays and small blackfin sharks abound. Sting rays approach people. Guides show how they can handle them, and sometimes feed them, as sharks hope for scraps. We have photos of Luda encircled by sharks, and holding up a sting ray the safe way. But as we left, I feel sad about missing a really great photo image: three pure white birds (terns? tropic birds) suddenly emerging over my head, with green, red and blue light shining out from them reflecting the green water and some blue and red nearby. I did get some white/green bird photos after that, but nothing like the original.

The third snorkel, near a hotel, was to a swarm of about 50 eagle rays deep below us. Luda and half the boat went out, but this time I didn’t. Through a patch of clear water by the boat, I could see them as clearly as I could have through a snorkel mask. Beyond that patch, reflected sunlight modified the image, but it was interesting to see the same creatures from different angles.

After that, we went past Matira beach to the fourth and final snorkel, the classic coral reef snorkel I mentioned already. Many types of coral and fish. Currents strong enough to be interesting, and make me glad I used fins, but not seriously distracting. Reef large enough to let me avoid the human overcrowding in some places. Then to lunch.

After lunch, the boat returned to the harbour and it started to rain. Luda asked me to stand in the long line to get into a tender boat back to our ship, the Maasdam. Did a bit of space politics by email/smartphone as I stood there, finished just in time to board the tender.
We had a similar all-day boat trip in Bora Bora two weeks before, led by Alfonso. Aro and Alfonso were both energetic and entertaining folks, outgoing and engaging. (And no, I have yet to do web checks to follow up what they said.) There were a couple of times when Aro worried he might have been just a bit too engaging with females, and said “Oh don’t worry, ladies, I am gay..” That didn't relax me, after I read the story about the gay (rae rae) on Nuku Hiva who served as a guide to a German tourist, and ate him, circa 2010. But that story was about a guy full of unique inner tensions, with a militant Catholic father versus old mahu (lgtb) traditions on the islands, great cultivation of sexual energy in general (one version of “mana"), and huge frustrations of that energy in his specific case.

Many more pictures are coming. This is the best I took that day.

Tuesday, October 16, 2018

Moslem Brotherhood wipes out Pope and Trump


https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope-francis/mass-casa-santa-marta/2018-05/pope-francis-santa-marta-devil.html
Pope Frances now believes that the devil is mounting a systematic and effective campaign to wipe out the Catholic Church. I learned that from the link above, sent to dozens of us from a staunch Trump supporter. Trump believes that he too is victim of a conspiracy, and that Hilary Clinton is the master devil.
This is a very dangerous misunderstanding, THIS WEEK, because it blinds them to the very intelligent and effective conspiracy aimed at destroying all three of them and more in order to achieve its own vision of a new world order: the Moslem Brotherhood (MB), for whom Erdogan (caliph in waiting) is the new primary instrument. MB has sprung a major trap on us this week, and the danger is very imminent.
Does MB really exist? I find it incredible how the New York Times and others are so oblivious to what MB is doing, after they themselves have printed excellent investigative reports on how it works, fueled by a certain kind of fundamentalist billionaire in Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, also well documented in the 911 commission report, which any of you could find on the web. Prince Mohammed of Saudi Arabia is the only world leader who has displayed a full understanding of the threat, and of how serious (even desperate) the situation is today.

Of course it is only natural that the top goal of MB right now is to eliminate Prince Mohammed by all means fair and foul. But why does the Times just echo what Erdogan and MB billionnaires ask them to do, to try to eliminate Prince Mohammed?  They talk of the threat to democracy from Russia (which does have some hacker gangsters, to be sure), but dark money totally trumps hackers right now, and guys like the governor of Georgia can hire their own hackers to ensure elections which are thrown to MB puppets, of whom there are many in Congress, eager to pressure Trump to do MB's bidding.

Money in politics is the real swamp, and MB has been delighted to lead the coalition. Those billionnaires mainly get money channelled from oil and they have lots of close friends in oil service companies such as Halliburton headquartered in the Gulf. (Did you imagine they were American? Comparing Cheney to Palpatine is not so far off as most people assume.) Even Flynn worked for Qatar and Erdogan. Poor Trump has been dragged around like a mule, wanting to thrash out of it, but without the awareness needed to do so.

And yes, they even emasculated his space corps plans, unless he has a new general to break Griffin's little games.
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I have done my best to make this post simple and direct, because there is a need for much greater first order situational awareness here. In a way, this situation reminds me of physics, where there are lots of important issues over the horizon but where people have to go one step at a time. Because there really is an impulse towards crazy actions this week in Washington, and because my internet access is very limited right now, I have simply chosen not to discuss many important aspects of this situation.
For example, a full understanding requires understanding of all sides. Luda sometimes gets me to watch some netflix which have some bearing – like the one about the Unabomber (very much like MB underneath), Snowden, and United States of Secrets (showing some aspects of Cheney's use of Hayden to rewire administrative agencies and drive folks like Snowden to do what they did). MB is not the first organized  group of people to demonstrate the kind of characteristics some call paranoid schizophrenia – immensely clever and competent focused thinking at a kind of tactical level, with gross fatal errors in defining larger goals. We need clearer vision and some kind of bandaids in our thinking to survive the week, but we should not be under the illusion that surviving the week is the only issue before us.
MB and the Times are both right, of course, in saying that the Catholic Church has had many real problems through the years. But so does Islam, and the attacks seem motivated less by a desire to fix and more by a desire to destroy, based on old style zerosum thinking, leading to something far worse. MB has funded and inspired groups who murder Sufis, and anyone who tries to strengthen the direct connections between  humans and spirit. It is the old animal authoritarian stuff, motivated by a very mundane instinct like chickens and roosters pecking to try to achieve dominance, with little real care for what gets damaged in the process.
MB is a huge immediate threat, along with the perversions of culture which it and its allies have perpetrated, but there are other schizos in the world too. How to create more balance and more real freedom for real people? Important as that question is, it belongs in another post (though my previous posts give some introduction already).

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==The crisis of the week:
MB wants US to help them knock off Prince Mohammed based on his alleged role in death of Khashoggi  (Let me call him K.) As if they had not done and ordered many many thousands!
Times keeps repeating the vivid “leaks" from Erdogan. So why believe Erdogan actually knows what happened to K? Erdogan obviously has motive and ability to make up a story to serve his ends, as he has done over and over again. To know something, you must assume he has a reliable agent inside the Embassy, in a position to observe. But: Prince Mohammed's toughest problem is exactly that, agents of MB hard to root out in Saudi itself. Yes he needs to work harder to keep them from performing such operations, but no, it is a gross error to assume he is a likelier puppetmaster here than MB itself.  A charitable view of the Times position on this issue is that it resembles their support years back for Condoleezza Rice's plan for instant democracy in Gaza, ever so pious, ever so disastrous.
As for devils and Loyola.. another day.

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Tuesday, October 9, 2018

Long-term cultural and spiritual duality and trinities in 4 Latin nations



My previous blog post used the example of Eastern Island to illustrate certain fundamental issues in human civilizations, such as population pressures and selection factors which catch up sooner or later with all of us. This post, written for the same discussion group, discusses similar experiences and issues in Peru, Columbia, Ecuador and Panama, all of which we visited before Easter Island. Some of these cultures did not do quite as well as Easter Island did (before outsiders took them away to be slaves).
Brian Josephson emphasized the need for more triadic thinking. He reminded me of the little book One, Two, Three, Infinity by George Gamow, which I remember reading in bed back when I was twelve (1959 or 1960). Gamow argued that human cultures have often been held back by humans not deeply apprecuating that the next number up after 3 is not just infinity.  But often enough, like Brian, I have seen a great challenge in getting people to think all the way up to 3, let alone 4.

I was serious in that past email about the "holy trinity" of "carbon, silicon and dark matter." But I mentioned seeing a lot of other meaningful trinities in our cruise through Latin America, which ended four days ago (unless you count Easter Island tomorrow). Believing that "soul"  or "psi" is an essential part of life, I have always tried to be open to direct experience "in four dimensions" in all such excursions. This is personal stuff, not proper disciplined third party science, which I do at other times.

Our first port of call after we left from Fort Lauderdale was Santa Marta, Columbia. My wife Luda usually does incredibly detailed and creative planning for these things (also keeping costs way down), but this time she just suggested we walk around town, using some maps she printed out but nothing formal and nothing using money. At first, I wondered whether she intended this as a kind of rest, nothing but a walk to the local cathedral, through the park, with trips to two local free museums. Visut to cathedral and park sounded so lame and mundane, but OK for a restful stroll.

By now, I should have known better. The park and the cathedral were as ordinary and commonplace as a 400kv power line. Despite the tourists in the middle part of the cathedral,  the big chapel on the left flank with statues to Mary at front and Santa Marta to the left were powerful gateways to a major lobe of the noosphere, linking to many powerful swirling strands of thought and feeling from across Colombia, somewhat held in balance at this point. This was the first of many "places of power" we engaged with on this trip. No matter how good we are at thinking out of the box, remembering nature and the stars, and focusing attention out of local limitations.. there is still no substitute for actually showing up in four dimensions to such gateways. Obviously the Catholic holy trinity was represented here, and more than familiar to us both. The park was also a kind of serious place of power. When we arrived, the teachers' union held a major open event there, connected to national politics and thoughts about the future of education, and there was also a stall representing the Kogi tribe explaining their cosmology and methods to train the soul.

At museums, and listening to experts hired by Holland America, we also learned about variations to approaches to drug use, an unavoidable issue these days (though I go to extremes to avoid it in my own life, for complex reasons).
I certainly avoid even mild use of cocoa leaves in tea, said to be safe and sold even in Catholic convents, but we saw two major instances in museums of tribes processing those leaves with gragments of shell or other alkali materials, generating true cocaine, a basically pure short circuit of the primary reinforcement centers of the brain. Somewhat less problematic is the historic use of psychedelics akin to psilocybin, LSD and ketamine, which do have some short circuit effect,  but mainly force open the input channels to tge brain, analogous to forceful opening of the pupil; fully sane people have no use for that, but it probably has use in therapy of extreme rigid folks (still not as good as some new nondrug nonDBStechnologies at MIT media lab).

Other Catholic places of real power on this trip where two-way communication occurred -- Trujillo, Peru, where Luda and I were invited to the special santa merced event in the cathedral in the main square (Trujillo like Arequipa being one of the two roughly million person cities, second only to Lima); Guyaquil, Ecuador,  where a little chapel near the lighthouse had more power than the main cathedral (despite two pointers it had to local esoterica). We did not go to central Lima this time, since we were there in 2016, and wanted to see new things closer to Callao the port.

The first nonCatholic place of spiritual power was the meeting house on the main San Blas island of Panama, the main meeting site of Kuna or Guna people. (Sadly, the islands are going under water due to global sea level rise, and their leaders told us they have just concluded a deal with Panama to evacuate completely to their holdings on the mainland. Those islands also contain a major refueling point for ships going to the Panama Canal.)

Maybe 1000 of us tendered to the island, but only two or three of us noticed and entered the meeting place, clearly both a spiritual and political center. One was the Holland American political science speaker, interviewing one of the leaders about climate change and the move. The meeting place was a big circle, mainly full of pews like a Quaker meeting place arranged roughly like a circle or octagons, low thatched roof, not ornate. In center, a few hammocks hung on posts which had a few posters on past leaders of the Guna. Two or three guys were in the hammocks, meditating.. and I feel sad I made no effort to connect that way. Later I heard that they are like Kogi in training youths selected young (8?) to 18, for what? How much mundane stuff, how much oral rote sfuff, how much actual psi? Westerners tend to be cynical, but I certainly saw some meditation. Later folks told me they have some deal with Christian missionnaries and such, not inconsistent with what Panama is,  or with syncretism.

Post Panama Canal, we visited three ports in Cosfa Rico over three days, Golfito, Quepos and Punta or Puerta Arenas.
I dont recall deep human spiritual energy, but we did arrive in the midst of a major national strike. Politics and wildlife.  Maybe there is  more in my daily notes, for later in any case.

First port in Peru was Trujillo, former capital of a vast empire conquered by the Incas circa 1430 AD. We were part of a small group led by a member of the Moche people who built that empire, and played a major role in overthrowing the Incas circa 1530.

First we visited Temple of the Moon (political and spiritual capital roughly 0ad to 600), then nearby Temple of Sun (more political, to 900), then Chan Chan center of big Chimu empire.

By Chan Chan times, he reported a holy trinity of ocean (symbolized by sea otter), land (puma) and heaven or sky (bird). The Moche people have long memories, and even now are very careful in their relations to local archeologists who have great attachments to formal theories of the day.

Moche and archeologists agree that human sacrifice was a major part of the rituals at the Temple of the moon, depicted clearly in colorful murals. But who gets killed? There was a ritual combat contest (analogous to the game of capture the flag?). Losers get sacrificed. It would happen mainly in El Nino years, partly in hopes that the gods or god would stop the El Nino but partly to reduce pressures on resources which were suddenly not be enough to sustain the population. It is curious that major new ecological problems caused collapse of the old system in early 600s, exactly when Mayans experienced the same, and that the quetzlcoatl theme also penetrated, along with folk history talking of ancestors arriving by sea from the north. But archeologists warned them that Peruvian culture originated independently, and they should not cast doubt on the national story.

I remembered a previous trip to Kohunlich in Mayaland, where high civilization lasted about 2 centuries longer, where the quetzlcoatl theme was stronger,  where selection for mathematics and spirit was also strong, not just ritual combat. The relation between priestking enforcers versus shamans was tricky, and a certain cactus juice was depicted in a colorful mural, but they said one would have to go to Chavin inland for more mathematical themes.

Museums declare authoritatively that the trinity of tribes like Moche was heaven, earth and underworld, and that sea otter represents underworld. Ironically, they seem to assume Moche must be like Mayans, even as they insist on no influence! I tend to believe the Moche who say the sea otter represents ocean, not underworld.

The Temple of the Sun period was more organized in any case. They proudly said that the ritual conflicts were abolished, after a kind of progressive military revolution in the 600s when super El Nino caused more disillusionment with old beliefs. But oops, discovery of bones prove some sacrifice of women and children. A warrior's response to another El Nino?.

The massive Chan Chan complex reminded me a little of the vast dig of terra cotta warriors in China. Our Moche guide pointed to the 17 big platforms where rituals were performed.
What kind of rituals, I asked? (No depictions of human sacrifice,) He looked embarrassed: actually, we know almost nothing . Until recently, the archeologists insisted that these buildings were just hotels for visitors to the  capitol. But they gradually realized that they didn't have any of the features a hotel would have, and the altars really are a but small to be raised beds. But the official position is that we are still just guessing that this was a ritual and governing center, and we have no idea what happened.

But then.. his people knew. He showed us the pool where the light of the moon, their main ... had reflection captured in the surace, a major part of the nightly rituals. The paths by which the king and various others came. The murals depicting phases and asoects of the moon. And other stories of his people.

Circs 1460 or 1470, Incas, upset by the rebellion of the chimu, ordered burning of the royal mummies which were a central part of Chimu culture. They worked hard, maybe totally successfully, to wipe out the Chimu language itself. But tge Moche/Chimu kept alive the stories of their people coming from the north by boat, and their commitment to being people of the boat. When Pizarro came.. he is still viewed as a liberator, despute the horrid things Spanish looters did to melt and steal goLd and silver, washing away 2/3 of the Temple of the sun. And they speak Spanish.

The Temple of the Moon and chan chan were places of power, but places requiring caution as well.

Next, outer seaside Lima. Pachacamac and Larco Museum the highlights for here. Peruvian culture pre-Incas usually isthought of as north (Moche/Chimu), central (Pachacamac) and southern (next day). Incas were closest to central, and treated them better than other coastal groups.

Larco museum, a major creation of archeologists, very beautiful and very Hispanic. In addition to the theory of the three worlds, it depicted a yin-yang theory of life and creation with startling similarity to what I heard from the leader of a school of Qi Gong some years ago. Same old yin yang duality (but no reference to those words or China), depiction of a swirl or spiral of creation and energy. And ancient statues, some quite pornographic,  clearly showing belief in underworld in this region. (Not sea otters!)

The big Inca Temple of the Sun in Pachacamac (older and probably more energetic than Macchu Pichu) was the only preColumbian site which felt like a Gateway as powerful as the stronger Hispanic sites. It is ironic how their successful harsh policies contributed to the growth of Spanish, which I view as a strong and clearcut positive development. That history should not be rewritten. Like the Chimu, they had their own varieties of human sacrifice, but apparently a lot more enlightened than earlier things.

At the entrance was a school the Incas brought for women. It taught many skills. The best students were married to Inca rulers or leaders.The worst were sacrificed. The middle were offered a choice of teaching or going home. So much better than selecting for strobg and stupid. One group of Quechua people, documented by the anthropologist Wilcox, had an intense and serious program of experiential spiritual training without drugs, a major and important plus.

Finally, we came to Paracas in the south, far more ancient than the others. Those people also have long memories. They are clearer than the Moche about arriving by boat from the North.. but in fact it seems they arrived initially to Moche, wandered south on the Andes and came down by water to Paracas. Pisco, wine growers. In El Nino years they would sacrifice not warriors or women and children, but the heads of politicians.

In 2016 we visited other parts of southern Peru. At Lake Titikaka, their holy trinity was pachatatta, pachamama and apus -- very much like the real beliefs of the yezidi kurd mountain people, much slandered by predatory disingenuous militants greedy for their land and their oil.

All for now. Again I apologize for sending out such a raw brain dump, but I dud put in cavears at the top...


Monday, October 8, 2018

Seeing the World Through a New Worldview, and Eastern Island





About a week ago, Luda and I were on Easter Island. We had zero internet and telephone access until now. Here is what I wrote offline for a group of folks like Sean ONullain (former collaborator with the neurosciengtist Walter Freeman) and Brian Josephson, asking the deepest questioons about the human mind and the foundations of physics.
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Sean has rightly called on us to start integrating and teaching a new worldview, which in some ways should be like a new religion, a new primary way of experiencing everything we experience. Brian has urged us to make use of triadic thinking, as part of the semiotic aspect of our thinking. In past work (e.g. www.werbos.com/Mind_in_Time.pdf , published in Russia), I urged us to use a first person scientific method as our primary way of engaging with the world. My new paper for Henry and Stan Klein starts with the same basic idea, expressed in other words, but the idea is what matters.

This morning – please forgive me if I postpone theory, and focus instead on extracting what I have seen and learned (I think) from first person experience this week, as I sit on a cruise ship now and try to consolidate memories of two intense days on Easter Island. And, in deference to Brian, I will highlight a few of the very important triads or trinities.
In fact, even before I talk about the  bigger picture, there is already a kind of trinity as I look out the window at the ocean. I see three “images" (not the specific two dimensional fields people often refer to with that word,  but collections of variables which could be mapped into fields of my neocortex). One is the usual visual image anyone sees. The second is a configuration of fields, really a field of vector flows for chemical species (most important salty H20, but also O2 and nutrients) following the Navier Stokes equation and the multispecies thermodynamics of Prigogine. This is a big part of what I see, because I see a movement towards mass death of all humans due to future H2S production in the ocean unless we mobilize our intelligence enough to change the direction. That has been part of this trip. The third is a web of spiritual energy, including major archetypes in our noosphere aka collective unconscious, and visible patterns of mist full of mana or qi and connection. I see all three images as one whole, just as people create a unified three-dimensional image by fusing images from two eyes.

A week ago, google ate an essay I wrote (in gmail) on a more fundamental trinity I have really been struggling with, a trinity which rises to the level Sean was asking for. The crude simplified version: the great trinity in our cosmos of “carbon, silicon and dark matter.” These are the three platforms of intelligence (or “consciousness" or “mind") which are actively struggling, present and future, in our solar system, in my view. More precisely, there are carbon-based life forms like us. (In a general formulation, there are also other naturally evolved organisms on other planets, possibly using different mixes of elements, possibly not; Peter Ward has a nice little book “Life as we do not know it,” trying to explain his research on xenobiology for NASA. But here, I focus mainly  on this solar system.) There is also “silicon", a word I use for now to represent all the many forms of  technology platform we can use to implement neural networks, still made of ordinary atomic matter. And then there is dark matter and dark energy, which in my view has a 99% probability of being the “hardware" platform for the  neural networks of the soul, if the cosmos we inhabit is either an Einsteinian kind of space (as I think Jack assumes, though he has not been so clear) or some kind of Fock space (as assumed in canonical quantum field theory). In the essay which google ate, I spent a lot of time trying to explain and justify that last sentence, but just for today please let me postpone that.
In my view, organic life, information technology (IT) and soul are truly fundamental, not just objectively, but in an urgent compelling practical way, as in my six slides posted at www.werbos.com/IT_big_picture.pdf.

For me, soul is not just theory, but a key part of everyday life. It is not the basis of everyday hopes and fears and narcissistic feelings of grandeur; mundane neuroscience and psychiatry are more than enough to explain that LEVEL of consciousness, as George Bernard Shaw portrays so well in his greatest play, Back to Methusaleh. They are something more. I have great respect for people like Edgar Cayce, Gopal Krishna of the yogins, Bucke, and whoever wrote the book “Conversations with God" even though I disagree with their attempts to find theories to explain their experiences.
They describe a kind of attunement which I also practice, essentially every day, especially in the early morning when my mind is more clear and detached. I explain this experience as a connection with the “noosphere,” which is not precisely what Teilhard de Chardin describes in his books The Phenomenon of Man and The Activation of .. Energy, but close enough in our practical experience. I view our noosphere as one instance of a species spanning the entire cosmos, evolved in the vast ocean of dark matter and energy which has now been mapped, which connects almost all galaxies in a vast network, and which is now known to be implicated in the birth of >90% of all stars. (Google “zombie galaxies" for more information on that last assertion.)
So I do that every morning when I can. And there are times and places where I can feel that kind of two way attunement even at later times of day. Certainly in attunement with ocean, with aspects of ocean, I do naturally think about what is happening in a very mundane physical way to threaten our kind of life.
But: Easter Island.  In these two days, there were lots of great human conversations, but also three special “spiritual gateways" I want to remember: (1) moai, the stone statues which the island is famous for; (2) the wooden carved statue of Mary and Jesus in the unique small Catholic Church in the one town; (3) the bird man .. system.. most palpable at Orongo  but also symbolized by carvings on the pedastal of the statue of Mary and Joseph. There were also four Moai sites of special power… Valuri (sp?), Vinapu, Tongariki and Rano Raraku. Rano Raraku is the big “quarry" where they carved hundreds of the statues, where many are standing today , with expressive faces and alive enough (though not yet fully animated according to the previous local beliefs, which require adding eyes as the final stage). I think Valuri is where you see the back sides of statues knocked down, a sacred site of “the revolution,” when islanders truly gave up their belief in the old system of just relying in spirits of ancestors for leadership. And I think Vinapu was the happiest, near town, with one very big reconstructed moai with eyes in front of the marriage circle,  near another ocean facing open field with seven reconstructed moai at the site where winners of the bird man contest would come for final celebration. Tongariki on the coast near Rano Raraku has 15 big statues facing inland, each representing one of the 15 tribes who divided up the land starting from its initial discovery by Polynesian explorers. (What of the “pink sand" beach where the first canoe beached? Maybe. )
Darwin certainly learned a lot observing and thinking about island ecologies as he traveled a similar  route. I have seen a lot of human societies on this route, coping with universal problems relevant to modern societies as well. One of the problems is “Malthusian effects,” the bounded sum game of any collection of humans or other animals in environments with finite resources. When the island was first discovered, the 15 tribes had a kind of growth economy (like pioneer society, like the k versus r distinction in E.O.Wilson's book Sociobiology, a book calling for a few tweaks but far more important and enduring than its politically correct critics admit). They built moai to be channels or gateways to their ancestors, to channel not only mana (aka qi, psychic energy, charisma, holy spirit) but also communication and guidance. But the new standard theory says that they reached Malthusian limits, started tribal warfare, and then had a great revolution knocking down the moai to assert their disbelief in the old system – a system in which ancestors of different tribes supported their own tribe, and the Nash equilibrium was horrid.
 After years of struggle and suffering (symbolized by wooden statues showing a starving man shriveling up), they came up with a new order, a new indigenous belief system, “the bird man system.” Local people describe that new system as a “kind of democracy, where everyone has an equal chance.”
Mechanically, the system was one of an annual competition, where each tribe nominates a champion who faces an honorable open competition witnessed equally by all 15 tribes. The winning champion is called “the bird man". His chief gets to oversee all resource allocations for the year. The champion himself picks a wife from 7 daughters of tribal chieftains,  and has a great year. Breeding of stronger people and leaders was part of their idea.
The truth is a bit more complicated. Perhaps the old system was in equilibrium. Even in a bounded sum n person game, the game strategies which survive (attractors of the dynamic game) tend to entail what Schelling described as “natural solutions" (see his readable little book Strategy of Conflict), like Max Weber’s concept of “legitimacy” or Locke's “social contract"). But when the very first European explorers arrived, not using force but demonstrating a higher standard of living, the people became more interested and open to the possibility of a better life. Orongo was the focus of connection to a more universal spirit channel, expressed via the Orongo cult worshipping Make Make, a kind of creator figure, symbolized in part by birds, revered as channels to heaven. Honorable competition did lead to peace and a higher standard of living. In my view, it also raised the level of spiritual growth and strength, and connection to the noosphere, which is more universal than tribal things within it. CAN WE OF EARTH TODAY ACHIEVE THE SAME?
It seems that the 15 tribes do have strong living memories, oral traditions of how they succeeded in the challenging time from the revolution to the new order. I wish that honest people could visit the tribes, and compile a book in which each chapter records the best memory of each tribe of how they succeeded in that hard time, a time not so different from challenges of humans as a whole in this century.
But then there was that Catholic Church. Common sense tells me that yet another visit to yet another Catholic Church should not have such huge spiritual importance to me, who gave up that organized affiliation when I was eight years old. But experience keeps telling me otherwise. After all, in any land where many of the people are serious Catholics of some kind, one should expect powerful connections of spirit and thought in those places. Still, I owe great thanks to my wife for bringing me to that church this time, when I was ready to return to the ship and rest. (And no, she was never Catholic.)
She saw many shrines to Maria (“the virgin Mary") in fields nearby. I asked our guide what they believe. “Not in Make Make any more, that is silly, but certainly Mary and mana.” The Mary statue looked nothing like the Mary statues we gave seen elsewhere, but my first thought was that this WAS supposed to be that same Mary, a manifestation of something bigger than this one island.  It seemed to reflect two main streams of thought.. the many mothers of the island, the general role of being a mother, especially in such a place; and the archetype of earth mother, aka pachamama, like what is depicted in the Disney cartoon Moana (which should not be underestimated).

Even the individual human mother here has faced a kind of bounded sum game. Perhaps she would have six children, of which only two would survive, because of limited resources. Those who are ideologically committed to infinite growth, and to accepting nothing less, would simply give up in despair when facing that kind of life. They  might say it makes no real difference what they do, give up and die. But the mother, while suffering, would still love her children and love life, and do what she can. The “small" difference between two children surviving and none surviving would seem great enough for her. Reaching the upper frontier of this bounded sum game means a lot to HER.

So here is another triad: the mother,  her children, and the greater noosphere “above" her, also facing bounded possibilities below but a greater range, both for the mundane game (where more coordination and honorable competition improve outcomes) and for the spiritual level (including “mana").
We too are challenged today to strengthen the spiritual reality of all humanity and life on earth, to make better outcomes possible, fully accounting for the reality and importance of technologies like machine learning (as well as energy, space,  quantum technologies and so on). Honourable competition must be part of that.
As for their ancestors… on Easter island, it is clear how soil fertility could be improved by coffee and biochar, and better communications building on tourism but going beyond it, and of course continuing to respect and preserve nature.

By the way, don't believe extreme collapse stories about the island. Worst collapse was a time of slavery to outsiders and then sheep farming after what I discuss above. Hawaii did better despite other problems,  because of sailors loving natives.
Being on a cruise ship away from internet, I naturally reflect further before saving this and copying to gmail.
Tuning into local cultures or gateways may seem strange. To some it may even feel like an exercise in losing identity.  It certainly calls for great care. I remember when I tuned into two sites in Qatar, and it took days for my body to recover – though it was an important learning experience, in part for learning appropriate caution and protocol. But many folks live their lives virtually hypnotized , caught up in their own local thoughtstream. One does not have true integrity until one can focus and move the inner eyes, to see other streams, allowing one to return home with more perspective. So many people on earth look up at the stars without really seeing them,  without assimilating the fact of a foundation much bigger and more reliable than anything on earth, whether of carbon or silicon or even local thoughtstreams.

On a previous day, I took similar notes on several other places we visited on this trip and gateways.
I now see better how to create a proper image of pachamama, to better connect reality and the thought streams of the area. But for later… Lots of pictures, discussions of their thoughts about six ways to increase mana. And the ancestors would be interested about how coffee and biochar might help the soil, and about the way that new solar projects could reduce incredible costs  of diesel shipped to the island (all should be discussed with Chile).





Beach, holy spirit as mana, link to news pbs site easter island. Two beaches? Called pink sand, crushed coral. 60k per year 4 dive diver, average 10k per year.