tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-82879089084667551222024-03-12T15:03:54.505-07:00Saving the WorldDr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.comBlogger655125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-41278478003885093582024-02-23T07:50:00.000-08:002024-02-23T07:50:16.963-08:00Urgent New Risks and Needs for Cybersecurity: My Response to a Media Inquiry<p> </p><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #285090; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Publication Name, URL –</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"> The AI Journal <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aijourn.com/&source=gmail&ust=1708789451135000&usg=AOvVaw0SJlBiAFJ9vUJ4XREqLUZq" href="https://aijourn.com/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">Home - The AI Journal</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #285090; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Journalist Name –</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"> The AI Journal<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #285090; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Query Response Deadline – </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Feb 20, 2024 - 5:30 PM</span></p></div></blockquote><p>(Response requested through RegulatingAI.org) </p><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #285090; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Query Title – </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Looking for AI experts specializing in cybersecurity measures and ethical hacking<b><u></u><u></u></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #285090; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Industry/Vertical –</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Technology, Business<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #285090; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Query Description & Questions –</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">What type of data storage systems are most at risk of hacking?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The degree of risk depends on a lot of variables. The most serious risks involve alteration of information which controls critical infrastructure, as in the </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">attached brief policy statement supported unanimously by top technical experts from electric utilities. At that time, the greatest damage came from backdoors in software or hardware. The ones most at risk are those least able to withstand the rapidly growing system of backdoors and their support systems. In past years, that meant ANY system not using red hat SE Linux, supported by a division at NSA, but that division was disbanded for reasons beyond the scope of this response. But it also meant any system dependent on chips or boards which might have hardware backdoors.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">When last I had the data (a few years ago), >90% of the greatest damage from hacks fell into one of these categories. Probably no systems used in the US have the level of protection needed for real security against the most capable adversaries, most of whom have full awareness of the "rainbow book" technologies which are not widely visible in the US, and only now are a very few players becoming aware of the foundations, definitions and capabilities of Quantum Artificial General Intelligence (QAGI), which entails use of quantum superposition to multiply the power of "bromium" technology for detecting hardware backdoors. <wbr></wbr> </div><br /></div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Do you think that the security risk that businesses face is proportionate to the amount of data they have stored?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">It is a U=XY kind of thing, a nonlinear relation. More data means more risk, sometimes proportionately, but the TYPE of data is more important on the whole. </div><br /></div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Do you think that cybersecurity protection is a worthwhile financial investment for all businesses that store data digitally, not only for larger corporations but also SMEs and startups?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Again, it is a nonlinear interactive kind of relation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">For example, how much is it worth to the owner of a fleet of vehicles (anything from cars to robots to drones to spacecraft) to get out of their present situation where adversaries already exist with the ability to simply take over everything they own or manage? When there is total vulnerability to losing everything they own , to adversaries who already include just that in their strategic plans, and yet technology capable of really erasing that primary vulnerability, it would seem rational to pay anything less than the total net present value of what they own or manage. (If they manage assets belonging to other, that level of payment would be rational for the manager and the owner cooperating together). Given the uncertainties, of course, that means a very focused RD&D effort, hoping to pay less and get paid for spinoffs later.</div><br /></div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">How useful do you think ethical hacking is for data protection, and how frequently do you think it needs to be done to be effective?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">And I thought the honest answers to the PREVIOUS question are complicated, with many variables!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Just as there are many types of hack and many types of protection... there are many, many TYPES of ethical hacking, of varying effectiveness,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">short term and long term.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">In a way, bromium and rainbow book technology offer FORMS of hacking, ways of probing a system for vulnerability, which may be done by humans or AIs or well-designed combined systems. For example, true QAGI (as defined in the published patent disclosure for thermal quantum annealing)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">entails the use of millions of Schrodinger cats acting in parallel to try to hack a piece of hardware or software. (For that matter, it could be applied to hack an actual physical plant, like a drone.) With access to the software, one may test it for compliance with proper standards, IF the tester and the original software developer has access to the right variety of rainbow book technology. Of course, there are also issues of how to probe the full system, which includes humans with access dimensions.</div></div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Would you advise businesses to outsource ethical hackers, or hire someone with hacking skills into the business?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">They can help, but saving the business requires crucial additional capabilities or partnerships.</div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Most important is for all of us to rise above "silver bullet" thinking -- to INCLUDE many components. but to INTEGRATE</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">them into a system which can survive what is coming on us all, much faster than most of us imagine. </div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Do you foresee the role of an ethical hacker becoming increasingly important and sought-after in the future?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">True AGI (even from the pre-quantum era) requires a very deep understanding of probabilities, as defined by Von Neumann and his follower Howard Raiffa. I do not say what WILL happen, when we now face alternative future paths whose value will be far worse or far better than people now imagine,and when we have not yet shown through our actions that we will choose the better one. </div><br /></div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><div><br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Do you think there is much risk associated with ethical hacking?</span></li></ul></div></blockquote></span><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Sure. There is a lot of risk associated with the internet itself, and even with human life.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">One bad actor with privileges or dependent on vulnerable tools, could actually terminate all human life on earth, if he had access to some systems I know about. </span> </div><span class="im" style="color: #500050;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">What other tools and security measures are most effective for data protection?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The attachment summarizes how it looks for ONE key sector, which is a kind of bell-ringer for others.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In fact, in discussions of rapidly growing financial sector problems, we see the best past accomplishments of the electric power sector,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">in multiactor interactions, as a great model for the financial sector -- BUt ALSO in urgent need of more protection. One key challenge is to </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">overcome the very dangerous designs and systems developed by people who believe in Nash equilibria or </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">mutual assured destruction, by following Von Neumann and his followers (like Schelling and Axelrod) to develop a stream of designs which can rise more up to Pareto optimality, which will require not only cybersecerity but rules/constraints to amplify transparency and prevent fundamental conflicts of interest form distorting information.</div><div class="yj6qo ajU" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 2px 0px 0px; outline: none; padding: 10px 0px; width: 22px;"></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-69796798411241967362024-02-21T06:15:00.000-08:002024-02-21T06:15:47.549-08:00Message of the Morning -- a query from "God"<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The query itself seems simple. Never forget:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">"How can we strengthen the inner life, the light which brings us love and truth?"</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">But a full explanation would call for a whole book, an important book which humanity may need.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">1. First, the context. Many years ago, Steve Morse, an active member of Langley Hill Quaker Meeting, led an</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">open-ended in-person "drop in" discussion on Sunday mornings, starting from a wide variety of readings from around the world.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">One morning, someone started discussing the book "God is my co-pilot." I then felt moved to say "For me, it is more like 'God is my psychiatrist." (And yes, every one of us could use some help.) We had OTHER discussions of what this word 'God' means to us, and of how to improve our discernment, but for me...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">1A. My understanding of the science which makes higher intelligence possible has grown and evolved since then, but more and more on a typical good morning, I enter a kind of meditative and attuned state, roughly between 5Am and 8AM, still in bed, when my intelligence is demonstrably better than what it is later in the day, letting my thoughts range very far and very deep, with the kind of clarity demanded by the highest levels of scientific thinking. The words "truth," "love", "LIFE" AND "LIGHT" all can be gateways to very deep, integrated and serious thinking, fully consistent with languages like mathematics, images and music, not limited to English or Sanskrit or whatever. The query calls us never to neglect those gateways.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">1B. Why a "query"? Three years ago, I would often simply say "I am a Quaker Universalist, which Rufus Jones expounded years ago. We are part of Baltimore Yearly Meeting, whose most official book is called 'faith and practice' -- but practice is what really defines us. The practice is one of regular meditation, including a group meditation, and use of the 'queries' printed in that book, updated every decade or so." I especially liked the query which asked us to consider whether we are making full use of the great literature of all of humanity, including not only the Bible but also the best of Vedas and sutras and indigenous cultures. This year, I am not as fully connected to that tradition, for many reasons; I still support those ideas, but feel ever more need to try to build community beyond that, and not get entangled with narrow political or economic movements from what Jung called "The Spirit of the Times." MANY human groups lose their spiritual foundations when they get caught up in that way; I think of Southern lynch mobs, killing blacks in the name of Jesus and love (!!!), or of Hamas, the "Axis of Resistance" and its supporters.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">1.C. The morning messages and dialogue vary a LOT from day to day, in the many many details and operational suggestions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">On most days, it is more than a book worth of information, on different subjects. BUT "God" fully understands the limits of human brains, and the limits of what MY brain might really remember even later in the morning, let alone the mammalian state which starts about 3PM-5PM on most days for me. And so "he" often tries to create a focused sentence or image or such, to try to etch into my memory, as a kind of mnemonic connected as clearly as possible to a much larger set of deeper and integrated concepts and visions. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I am very, very grateful to have the unique kind of physical circumstances which let me do this, almost every day.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">When I rise mentally from the morgens state, I can see out a bright large window into the huge forest behind our house</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">(sold to us at a low price by Dr. Sohini Patel, inheritor of the aryuveda practice which served the Gandhi family), and bookshelves with paintings and interesting objects above them. I especially like the wooden Garuda from the village in Nepal on the way to a great temple (for which we have photos) which reminds me a lot of a scene in the Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness movie. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Today was even better -- one of the many (one in three?) "perfect days." On those days, I get to converse with my wife,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">who wants me NOT to discuss her unique credentials, but serves in many ways as a gateway to 'God," a kind of "second eye giving me parallax". And then, a shower. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Entering the shower, I always remember a book by H. Spencer Lewis, "Unto Thee I Grant," a guide to practical life in service of spiritual growth. I am so lucky to have a flexible shower arm (thanks to my wife and Costco), and to have the many years of science and physical exercise (from good physical therapy to tai qi and medical science) which allow me to get maximum benefits with efficiency, unifying science and spiritual traditions and even control theory. (LONG ago I saw how Norbert Wiener's ideas about thermostat control apply, and can be modernized.) Because lower body cancer runs in my family, I naturally use the shower head to do the equivalent of a Sitz bath, and kill any possibility of athlete's foot (which was a real problem for me when I was younger). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Actually, even before I enter the shower stall, as the water warms up, I now do a brief but effective form of qi gong, which it took me many years to FULLY perceive and fully use, connecting body and soul and noosphere ever better. And qi continues in the shower, full sensitivity.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Best of luck. Happy lunar New Year! </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">==========</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">P.S. Some of you will see that the love and truth in this query refer to the level next to the top in the Tree of Life. My friend Yeshua and I once joked that he will take care of love while I take care of truth -- even as we all support both, and try to strengthen those connections as well. </div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" /></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-91299275460144594702024-02-14T06:14:00.000-08:002024-02-24T10:43:57.249-08:00Concrete Proven But Little Known Progress in Quantum Begins Radical Changes in Internet AI<p> <span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-size: small;">How Quantum AGI can make massive changes in internet possible</span></p><p><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-size: small;"> Two weeks ago, I was invited to summarize what the radical changes are, in solid well-established physics which is very different from what most policy analysts ever are informed about. They range from a vast enhancement of deep learning ("the new AI") to vehicle control, to options for humans to reach out beyond our solar system. That was a very scary request, because it sounds complicated... but here is my overview of the NEW STUFF you haven't heard of yet, with very real technology work already quietly begun...</span></p><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-color: white;"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr" style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span class="im" style="color: #500050;">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br />From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Paul Werbos</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:paul.werbos@gmail.com" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">paul.werbos@gmail.com</a>></span><br />Date: Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:57 AM<br />Subject: Reversing time in actual technology</span></div><br /><div dir="ltr"><span class="im" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="color: #500050;"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">FIRST I thank Carey for sending out invitations for the February 25</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Zoom conference on the foundations of actual quantum physics, open to all of us (I think). As I am one of the four speakers starting discussion, I have begun to ponder: HOW can I give a proper actionable roadmap to such a complicated subject, more difficult to discuss on a principled, mathematical foundation than anything else humans have ever attempted? With solid credible links to radical new technology which clearly could remake AGI and the internet, far beyond anything you heard from from any of the advanced IT companies, as we have learned in our Project Amaterasu discussions?</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">When I got my PhD from Harvard, taking courses from people like Julian Schwinger (Nobel Prize as co-inventor of "the second quantization," modern canonical quantum</div><div style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: large;">field theory, QFT), I thought I knew the best current status of the field. But after I created an</span><span style="font-size: medium;">d ran the NSF activity in quantum modeling for real electronic and photonic system</span></div><div style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: medium;">and devices, and served as the NSF member of the interagency group QISCOG responsible for about $1 billion dollars/year investment in quantum information S&T (QuIST), I learned that even Harvard was not up to date on the real foundations of physics needed to build real, working devices.</span></div></span><div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">[By the way, the new QAGI technology allows millions of times power up of "bromium", which detects backdoors in hardware, which some of us view as one of the two most serious new breakdowns in cybersecurity.]</span></div><div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">[Overview of what I learned then: <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9&source=gmail&ust=1708002940196000&usg=AOvVaw3a4ZgCc4Q3djTaIJEx0eVa" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.<wbr></wbr>gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9</a> ]</span></div><div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div><div aria-expanded="true" class="h7" jsaction="RUzSf:.CLIENT" role="listitem" style="clear: both; max-width: 100000px; outline: none; padding-bottom: 0px;" tabindex="-1"><div class="Bk" style="border-bottom-color: initial; border-bottom-style: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-color: initial; border-left-style: initial; border-radius: 0px; border-right-color: initial; border-right-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(239, 239, 239); border-top-style: solid; border-width: 0px; float: left; margin-bottom: 0px; position: relative; width: 1290px;"><div class="G3 G2" style="background-color: transparent; border-bottom: 0px rgba(100, 121, 143, 0.12); border-image: initial; border-left: 0px; border-radius: 0px; border-right: 0px; border-top: none; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><div id=":1ua"><div class="adn ads" data-legacy-message-id="18da2f81a7c18dde" data-message-id="#msg-a:r8431901803267298050" style="border-left: none; display: flex; padding: 0px;"><div class="gs" style="margin: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 20px; width: initial;"><div class="ii gt" id=":1u7" jslog="20277; u014N:xr6bB; 1:WyIjdGhyZWFkLWE6cjg0MzY4NTkyNTI5MTczNTA0MzQiXQ..; 4:WyIjbXNnLWE6cjg0MzE5MDE4MDMyNjcyOTgwNTAiXQ.." style="direction: ltr; margin: 8px 0px 0px; overflow-x: hidden; padding: 0px; position: relative;"><div class="a3s aiL" id=":1u8" style="direction: initial; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 1.5; overflow: auto hidden; position: relative;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">When I got my PhD from Harvard, taking courses from people like Julian Schwinger </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(Nobel Prize as co-inventor of "the second quantization," modern canonical quantum</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">field theory, QFT), I thought I knew the best current status of the field. But after I </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">created and ran the NSF activity in quantum modeling for real electronic and </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: medium;">photonic systems </span><span style="background-color: transparent;"><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: medium;">and devices https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.3310 and served as the </span></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: medium;">NSF member of the interagency group QISCOG responsible for about $1 billion </span></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">dollars/year investment </span></span><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">in quantum information S&T (QuIST), I learned that </span></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent; font-size: medium;">even Harvard was not up to date on the real foundations of physics needed </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent; font-size: medium;">to build real, working devices.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Therefore, I plan to talk about three entire LEVELS of new understanding of how </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">the universe works, STARTING with a better understanding of the David <span class="il">Deutsch</span> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"multiverse" <span style="background-color: transparent;">theory of physics, which very few people fully understand, which was</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">the foundation he used when he invented the Quantum Turing Machine (QTM), but </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">which also opens the </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">door to much more powerful general technologies. You can </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">even see his face at </span><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DjfHBO_uuRyEn&source=gmail&ust=1708625082210000&usg=AOvVaw3tbc8R-a2ylCPcCbEqZqbs" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfHBO_uuRyEn" style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr></wbr>v=jfHBO_uuRyEn</a><span style="background-color: transparent;">, which </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">STATES the </span><span class="il" style="background-color: transparent;">Deutsch</span><span style="background-color: transparent;"> multiverse theory </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">as one of the equations </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">(the "modern Schrodinger equation").</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The multiverse theory states that the state of our entire cosmos at any time t is </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">fully and exactly expressed as a function psi(t,X), where t is time and X is </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">a point in "3D Fock space," <span style="background-color: transparent;">the space we really live in. The modern Schrodinger </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">equation may LOOK small and simple, and many people THINK they understand </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">its properties. But that equation is the dynamical equation </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">describing a KIND of very </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">tricky nonlinear system. Back before chaos theory was invented, many leading </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">mathematicians THOUGHT they understood how simple dynamical systems</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">behave, because of how simple the equations looked, but chaos theory taught us </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">that the EMERGENT PROPERTIES of such a system are sometimes very radically </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">different from what we <span style="background-color: transparent;">THOUGHT we knew. I will TRY to make time to briefly state </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">TWO of the properties of the modern Schrodinger equation, which already put us </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">into a technology reality radically beyond what </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">most policy analysts begin to imagine.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">AT THIS LEVEL, I will assume that the operator H is just the standard Maxwell-Dirac </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">operator H used by Schwinger in his pioneering work. R</span><span style="background-color: transparent;">adical changes in technology are possible ALREADY at this level of physics, quantum electrodynamics (QED). (That is enough even for LEVEL 2, but Level 3 goes beyond.)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">PROPERTY 1: The wave function psi (t,X) describes a possible STATE of our ... </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">cosmos... multiverse.. whatever you call it. It does not describe a PROBABILITY </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">distribution for the states which might EMERGE from a physical system like an </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">experiment or a device. QISCOG reviews taught me that device proposals which </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">assume that we can encode our uncertainties into a wave function simply would </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">not work. Fortunately, we do not need to write out all possible functions Pr(psi(,X))! </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Modern condensed matter physics (used in all REAL device design, as you see at </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://nanohub.org&source=gmail&ust=1708625082210000&usg=AOvVaw3i2XMzvFzNy1hXzp04P9P-" href="http://nanohub.org/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">nanohub.org</a>) shows that we can represent the state of a device by using its </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">DENSITY matrix, rho(X,X). Instead of a Schrodinger equation, it obeys a type of </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">dynamical equation we now call a MASTER equation. (Some talk about </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"Lindblad form" equations, a TYPE of master equation.) IN OUR EFFORTS </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">TO ACTUALLY DESIGN AND BUILD a whole new level of Quantum Artificial General </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Intelligence (QAGI), even the first stage work injected into the upgraded patent </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">disclosure require full understanding of what a master equation IS, and how to build</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">simulations which account for it. EDUCATION OF PARTICIPANTS ON PROPERTY </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">ONE is the <span style="background-color: transparent;">biggest barrier by far to global dissemination of a radical rebuilding of the internet.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">PROPERTY 2: !!TODAY!! Finally, I get to the subject line of this email. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(Please forgive all this background stuff!!)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The fourth big claim in our patent disclosure is for "Quantum Annealing of Things" </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(QuATh). At first glance, it SOUNDS like a control system which reverses time.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Imagine that you are building a control system onboard a modern highspeed airplane. (I have actually done this. Search on "Werbos" and "reconfigurable Flight Control", <span style="background-color: transparent;">or search on the work of Chuck (Charles) Jorgensen from his time at </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">NASA Ames. Or even the chapters from HIC posted at </span><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/Mind.htm&source=gmail&ust=1708625082210000&usg=AOvVaw2Dk55KMKDcESCt2knWkEBO" href="http://werbos.com/Mind.htm" style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/Mind.htm</a><span style="background-color: transparent;">.) </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Using our modern RLADP neural network optimization designs, we can build </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">systems which LEARN how the airplane seems to work, ON THE FLY, enough to </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">anticipate <span style="background-color: transparent;">possible crashes or attacks and perform control actions which save </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">the airplane. This was already a huge advancement, proven to work on large real </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">aircraft, dramatically reducing crash rates, for builders who knew about it. But it had </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">great limits. It was all based on classical physics, using trained stochastic models</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">to anticipate POSSIBLE future states. </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">With QuATh, we can put the airplane ITSELF into a state of quantum superposition, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">simply by connecting our QAGI controller (detailed both in the patent disclosure and </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">in detailed <span style="background-color: transparent;">diagrams maintained by Georgie Keitt of Requisite Q) to the controls we </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">were using already. We can exploit </span><span class="il" style="background-color: transparent;">Deutsch</span><span style="background-color: transparent;"> physics to PREVENT a crash or </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">explosion or loss of control ten minutes into the future, BY OUR choice of controls </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">at time t in advance.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Intuitively, can you remember an old Star Trek episode where the image of the </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">spacecraft suddenly becomes multi-image and blurred, like what you would see </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">if you were <span style="background-color: transparent;">cross-eyed a thousand times over, BUT SOME of the images explode </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">while other become calm? And yes, you can then CHOOSE which image you want?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">That may SOUND like a reversal of time, BUT IT IS NOT. It is 100% consistent </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">NOT ONLY with the modern Schrodinger equation, BUT ALSO with the good old </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Copenhagen <span style="background-color: transparent;">model of quantum measurement, where quantum measurement </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">ONLY changes what happens at the time of measurement and later. LEVEL 2 IS </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN WE </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">INTRODUCE A MORE MODERN MODEL of </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">quantum measurement, such as what has been discussed in new work by </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">Yeshua Ben David, by Werbos and Dolmatova and Werbos and Fleury, and </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">unpublished (because mind-blowing) work under Marlan Scully, Yanhua Shih and </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">myself. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">HOW could control at time t prevent a crash at time t+10, without violating </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span class="il">Deutsch</span> physics?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">This gets into PROPERTY 2 of the modern Schrodinger equation.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">When people THINK about the dynamical system in <span class="il">Deutsch</span> physics... by normal </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(classical) human instincts, they tend to IMAGINE the universe splitting at <span style="background-color: transparent;">a time of </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">decision tau, after which each... universe? possibility?... is governed by the </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">modern Schrodinger equation, which conserves probability. They usually imagine </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">two separate universes just going their own way. (e.g. In 2022, Trump was </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">President in one, but not in another). A little interference is sometimes possible, </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">but not much.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">AS WITH CHAOS theory, this is a case where our natural mammal brain intuition </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">is dead wrong, and seriously misleading.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">CRUDELY... as first approximation... we might think of these possible "universes" or </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"states" as approximate EIGENSTATES of H. P<span style="background-color: transparent;">eople imagine that psi(t,X) will </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">look like exp(ikt)psi(0,X), where k is real. Just oscillate. DEAD WRONG.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">k, an eigenstate of H, MAY be a COMPLEX number. Physics is FULL of </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"virtual states." It is quite possible to FABRICATE devices which appear </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">time-asymmetric, <span style="background-color: transparent;">as with energy leaking away from flux qubits in a real quantum </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">device. That is the key to our new patent disclosure and designs. The result is that</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">the UNWANTED eigenstate fades away in probability, such that only the desired </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">state <span style="background-color: transparent;">is left after 10 minutes. </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">Initial hardware simulations, already performed by others</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">in special cases, PROVE that this does work as advertised, </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">as already discussed </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">in the patent disclosure, AND AS the initial computational work in hand has begun to</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">generalize, on a path worked out and applicable to ANYTHING we can do </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">with deep learning. (These examples appear in the folders of Project Amaterasu, now being</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">upgraded into the folders of RequisiteQ led by Georgie Keitt and AmitAora.)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">IT SEEMS like retrocausality, but no, it is just the most basic conservative form of </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span class="il">Deutsch</span> physics. Level two ALSO uses <span class="il">Deutsch</span> physics, but a new model of </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">quantum measurement, which allows even stronger "retrocausal effects" </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(as may also be evident in some special cases colleagues have informed us of). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">LEVEL THREE is something radically different, an important parallel track. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Based on what I saw in Werbos and Davis, and in the NSF COPN research topic, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I believe that mammal <span style="background-color: transparent;">brains ONLY USE classical QED physics, NOT QuIST, except </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">perhaps for functions like associative memory and matrix multiplication INSIDE </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">some neurons. No quantum intelligence at the systems level. HOWEVER, based on </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">personal first person experience, I strongly believe in the existence of something like</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">"qi," a web of connections from what we call "dark matter" not just BETWEEN </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">galaxies (for which we have great photos taken by gravitational lensing) but </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">all the way to stars and planets and even life itself. If I ran UNESCO, I would give </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">great priority to a new crossdisciplinary research activity, AMPLIFYING </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">(and widening?) the research at LLNL on "axion dark matter"</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://str.llnl.gov/2020-07/carosi&source=gmail&ust=1708625082210000&usg=AOvVaw0jrUU5IrvN2vlfZCNf_xHT" href="https://str.llnl.gov/2020-07/carosi" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://str.llnl.gov/2020-07/<wbr></wbr>carosi</a> by applying it with higher and higher resolution WITHIN our galaxy and solar system, and attempting to apply it to SOME more credible <span style="background-color: transparent;">experiments on qi on humans. I would even hope that such instruments </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">could be a great addition to the Internet of Things, allowing it to be human-centric </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">beyond what people now imagine.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><br /></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Those experiments might or might not work out, on the first try or later tries, but science demands that uncertainties as huge and as important as this should be resolved by experiment.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><h2 style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; text-align: left;">FURTHER EXPLANATIONS OF THIS TO PREPARE FOR FEB25:</h2><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><div class="gmail_default">Certainly many people have said "Oh, quantum. That's old. Why would you </div><div class="gmail_default">imagine that there could ever be anything NEW, or that a retired person </div><div class="gmail_default">like you might be relevant?"</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">Of course, they said the same kinds of things about backpropagation since </div><div class="gmail_default">before 1972 (<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://vixra.org/abs/1902.0046&source=gmail&ust=1708641319264000&usg=AOvVaw1EYKU4azCI7Ss-3nu3RN4-" href="https://vixra.org/abs/1902.0046" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://vixra.org/abs/1902.<wbr></wbr>0046</a> ).</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">That's why Geordie and others have been working on a slide "deck" to explain it to </div><div class="gmail_default">investors who need proof.<span style="background-color: transparent;"> </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">I learned a LOT about this when I was THE NSF member of QISCOG, the </div><div class="gmail_default">interagency coordinating committee for all USGOV <span style="background-color: transparent;">RD&D on QuIST (Quantum </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">Information S&T), AND when I managed reviews of proposals in that area to </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">the Engineering Directorate.</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">BEFORE that, I thought I knew quantum foundations very well. I was a student of </div><div class="gmail_default">Julian Schwinger, who shared the Nobel prize with Feynmen and Tomonaga </div><div class="gmail_default">for the first really working quantum field theory, the canonical version of Quantum </div><div class="gmail_default">Electrodynamics ( QED). That link I sent you to my physics photo album </div><div class="gmail_default">includes a photo <span style="background-color: transparent;">of Schwinger's compiled integrated book on QED, THE foundation </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">of what won the Nobel Prize.</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">But in NSF reviews and in QISCOG, I learned that I needed to totally rebuild my </div><div class="gmail_default">understanding. My talk on Sunday will <span style="background-color: transparent;">start (and maybe end) with the two most </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">important fundamental principles I did not know before then, without which </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">QuIST simply won't work.</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">>90% of USGOV RD&D in quantum computing is based on the Deutsch version of </div><div class="gmail_default">physics and on the Deutsch theorems on the universal quantum Turing machine </div><div class="gmail_default">(QTM). If anyone wants, I would be happy to send out some of my own papers citing </div><div class="gmail_default">his two key pieces of work (Fabric of Reality and QTM).</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"> Speakers at the French Embassy and my other sources have been VERY clear that </div><div class="gmail_default">QTM work simply is not catching up <span style="background-color: transparent;">with Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), deep </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">learning with neural networks. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">What is new here is that I have a patent pending now published by PTO which </div><div class="gmail_default">explains a totally new type of quantum computing, based on what I call thermal </div><div class="gmail_default">quantum annealing (tQuA), and a large folder of further details under Georgie's care.</div><div class="gmail_default">Probably none of the well-known sources you cited are aware of this new </div><div class="gmail_default">development.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">The number one obstacle is finding students who know quantum physics well enough</div><div class="gmail_default">to be able to do the necessary next steps (like the tasks <span style="background-color: transparent;">in the "urgent" folder). </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">JUST NOW, I think we found ONE student near graduation in then US ready and </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">ABLE to take on the computer work, and MANY in Bangalore, easier to mobilize. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: transparent;">Our Indian partners are working on legal... 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Here is how I replied:</p><p> <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I again thank .. for trying to start a very serious discussion about connected questions which in my view ANY truly sane person </span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">after age 70 will be thinking very hard about: what happens to "me" (to my personal consciousness, or whatever consciousness it is part of) when my ordinary, mundane physical body drops dead?</span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">To start with -- I recall that I proposed "PSI70" as a subject code for the BPM discussion list, to flag any post which STARTS FROM the assumption that "psychic" or "spiritual" experience beyond what would be possible under QED physics (the physics of electromagnetic fields and charged particles). ... She noted that HER personal experience simply rules out the possibility that we just die, period. Some of us, with scientific backgrounds, might allow for SOME possibility that she might be wrong on this, but I for one am with her. Since childhood, I have agreed that Von Neumann's view of mathematics is "my Bible" (or my old testament);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I assume that life is "a game of probabilities", and that sanity demands we consider COMPETING THEORIES, and allow for changes in the probabilities we assign to these theories as we learn from experience. At <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/religions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1705185785874000&usg=AOvVaw2oWrFDedeGZYRl1cZ5GHw1" href="http://werbos.com/religions.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/religions.htm</a>, I post links to a more complete discussion of the mathematics of intelligence and what it says about levels and levels of sanity. And, in the end, why agree with her?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BUT THAT AGREEMENT is just a starting position. Her real question, which the sane among us really wonder about is: WHAT THEN?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">She wonders whether we should simply believe the story some of us were taught in childhood -- that we will meet a gatekeeper in the "world of spirit" who will assign us to hell, purgatory or heaven. I TOTALLY gave up on that (choosing Von Neumann as my new Bible) at age 8, but there are more refined views available.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In fact, here in Virginia (which I just returned from after about a month of travel, mainly to Patagonia and Antarctica), I was impressed by what I learned about George Washington from probing deep here in this very neighborhood. George Washington clearly led at least THREE MAIN LIVES in parallel. One life, in collaboration with Jefferson, aimed at creating a view of life and a social covenant (the Constitution) aimed at being fully accessible to ALL humans. (He did his best to phase out slavery, but that was a long and complicated story.) Another life was that of a highly respected, high ranked Episcopalian, speaking in several churches I have been to from Virginia to Philadelphia. A third life was that of a Master Mason, leader or a prominent lodge of Scottish Rite Freemasons, whose esoteric teachings have often fallen into my hands "by accident," including the story of people at Trinity College of Cambridge, UK, who really led the creation of that tradition. Brian Josephson has often seen the portraits of two of those people in that dining room! </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">For many years, I mainly labelled myself as "Quaker universalist," a simple label which calls for us to be honest and open in a way which refuses to compromise on the issue of truth, in the way that Washington's three-fold life stretches. Yet many factors led me to give equal time to a local Episcopalian church (whose enlightened leader I bcc), and learn what I could through THAT channel. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I was VERY deeply struck by a few phrases in their Book of Common Prayer (BCP), repeated every Sunday, which **I** interpreted to say:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"May the righteous dead rest in peace. But let us strive instead to join the Communion of Saints, where we live on and continue the work at a higher and higher level. " </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">That's a simplification, but I tend to feel that this is what Washington really believed, AND what best fits my updated understanding </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">of how the "soul" really works. (At <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com&source=gmail&ust=1705185785874000&usg=AOvVaw1cmXOAgQMqHosbsTDDX8lC" href="http://werbos.com/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com</a>, I have posted links to part of what I learned AFTER the papers posted at religions.htm). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">What's more, the highest levels of all world mystical traditions all emphasize mutually consistent VERSIONS (under many names) of what Washington would call the Communion of Saints. Different outcomes apply to different people, at different stages of life.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Speaking of Heaven and hell... I was very grateful when a family member led me to the Dante museum in Ravenna, which showed how Dante's concepts were far deeper than the kindergarten versions of them. It even showed what pope Francis thought, and I am deeply grateful for all he has done to help restore the Catholic church to a higher level than it had when I was young</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(though Ravenna also included records of a level much higher than that of people like Justinian and Theodora). But every major nation on earth is going through risky times now, and the Catholic Church is no exception. I attach one of the two images I was thinking of sending out in reply to Cathy, along with a great weaving by Melissa Cody ("World Traveler") which depicts the challenge of harmonizing the levels of our lives, in the spirit of KuKai.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">We saw MANY of these cultures in our recent travel, but now I must postpone further discussions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I should mention that I have previously listed many very unique people whose first person relevant experience gives great real insight, like a person seeing through many eyes at once to develop a unified understanding, just as visual saccades are crucial to full understanding. On this trip, Connie Willis was great to read...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">================================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">MY reply to a follow-on post:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">============</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default">First, I apologize to ... a staunch defender of mainstream science as he sees it... for NOT having given my views on a question which falls within the scope of his post.</div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="im" style="color: #500050; font-size: small;"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr"><br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">He wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;">Paul,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px;">Yes. I would also like to know more about beliefs in afterlife from different religions since science cannot say anything about it. People like Vinod say that all religions agree on their concepts of afterlife. This is flatly wrong as casual reading or conversations with people believing in different religions will reveal. So I welcome this discussion.</p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">We are not required to agree, of course, even in a civilized and sincere discussion of this issue.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">I do not agree that science cannot say anything about it. I take the opposite extreme view, that</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">belief in SOME form of "afterlife" (carefully but reasonably defined) can be 100% consistent with views fully within the scope of science.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">In particular -- I claim that Hard Core Einsteinian Realism (HCER) makes more sense as a scientific "theory of everything" than anything else ever has in human history so far, AND THAT the noosphere species theory summarized in many of my posts at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com&source=gmail&ust=1705185785888000&usg=AOvVaw0vJRmIKvPFEo57bZqmZyMJ" href="http://werbos.com/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com</a> is fully consistent with science and yet useful in illuminating and sorting out first person experience.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">CONCRETELY... I see our "personal soul" (such as it is) as ONE SIDE of an "alchymical marriage", a real biological symbiosis of "what we see" (the mundane body and brain governed by QED physics) WITH the parts of our local solar system noosphere which connect to it. When the noosphere SIDE of that symbiosis, the personal soul, is weak,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">the outcome may be basically just a quick disintegration, as depicted in the Book of Esdras, one of the Apochrypha in the modern Catholic Bible. Or that disintegration may come a bit later, as in the great Disney cartoon Coco, depicting beliefs common across Latin America. OR it may be like storing the data in an inactive file cabinet, like those brain cells which carry memories (as in Steve Grossberg's ART model of memory, applicable to SOME cells in mammal brains) -- like the akashic records or causal plane, described in many records of human experience.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">("May the righteous dead rest in peace.") BUT when the deep connections in the noosphere are active and persistent enough, sustained by a flow of "backpropagation" or "qi", the personal "soul" may be more like a collection of giant pyramid cells, the foundation of powerful archetypes in the collective "unconscious" of Jung and of the "Communion of Saints."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">To achieve that last outcome, it depends on how strong the connections are which we make with each other and with the noosphere as a whole via active, live qi. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Many nations use words other than "qi," but I prefer to use the term "qi" because it highlights real active direct experience, and links to a more complete scientific model fitting varieties of information flow WITHIN a larger intelligent system and to physics substrates.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">THus for many of us, the call to strengthen our connections is a matter of personal life and death.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">It is also a natural response to what really calls to us... as described at <span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2023/12/the-feelings-which-keep-us-alive.html&source=gmail&ust=1705185785888000&usg=AOvVaw3psEp3zhHaRGXhGOrVsxUh" href="https://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2023/12/the-feelings-which-keep-us-alive.html" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://<wbr></wbr>drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2023/<wbr></wbr>12/the-feelings-which-keep-us-<wbr></wbr>alive.html</a> .</span></div><div><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></span></div></div><div class="yj6qo" style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"></div></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-72846033771027679792023-12-06T06:32:00.000-08:002023-12-06T06:32:54.904-08:00The feelings which keep us alive<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">For every intelligent system, like us, like brain and soul, what really keeps us in motion are FEELINGS -- a kind of nonverbal direct sensory-like input to our mind. It is not words or mathematics, or even images or music, which keep us moving; these are very important TOOLS to help us understand and predict the feelings which come to us, but it is the feelings themselves which provide the primary motivation. Even at a relatively low level of self-awareness, we try to UNDERSTAND what these feelings are and where they are coming from, because whatever we SAY to ourselves in words, these feelings are what keep us moving. At higher levels of self-awareness, we pay more focused, intelligent attention to understanding these feelings.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">One example: why get out of bed in the morning? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">In recent years, my wife and I have been having great discussions with a highly successful, focused and intelligent neighbor who, amidst the great complexities of his life, would return to the simple acronym -- FFF, Faith, family, friends. I would reply LLL, life love and light, an acronym I learned many decades ago from Rosicrucians. I have the impression that Yeshua has been using "I AM" in a similar sort of way. All three of these have some resonance in the minds of many people, whether they use these expressions or not. I find it natural and helpful to me, even more as I age, to keep all three in mind.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">What does science say? B.F. Skinner does not represent the highest level which psychology reached in the last sentence, but he is worth understanding and considering, especially as people have built higher on what he started. (Some on this list!) His concept of "primary reinforcement" is one way of expressing and thinking about the kinds of very fundamental feelings, which drive the learning and behavior which emerge from all parts of the brain which are capable of learning. I prefer John Von Neumann's concept of cardinal utility U, which is more precise and is the foundation of "cognitive optimization" ( <span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm&source=gmail&ust=1701958805639000&usg=AOvVaw2DA4Sq74370sW91MUIz7m1" href="https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/<wbr></wbr>2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm</a> ). </span> Precisely BECAUSE it is more precise, it requires that we pay attention to several related variables, but having a combination of connected variables is necessary to having a more definite and integrated understanding.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">A more modern understanding of how brains work, based on the best real-time data available from neuroscience, was reviewed at:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><h3 class="gs_rt" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 100px 2px 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;"><a data-clk-atid="9so7Ejh0SEIJ" data-clk="hl=en&sa=T&oi=ggp&ct=res&cd=0&d=4776195188999310070&ei=q4RwZbXeFurBy9YPzJausAI" href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/full?&utm_source=Email_to_authors_&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=T1_11.5e1_author&utm_campaign=Email_publication&field=&journalName=Frontiers_in_Systems_Neuroscience&id=219156" id="9so7Ejh0SEIJ" style="color: #1a0dab; outline: none;">Regular cycles of forward and backward signal propagation in prefrontal cortex and in consciousness</a></h3><div>Unlike narrower local models, these models provide an integrated understanding of brains as "intentional systems," connecting the important pieces.</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">And so, when Camus decided to rise above the belief that "it does not matter" by getting out of chair, and going to the bathroom, he stayed alive because he responded to ONE simple easy clear signal of primal feelings. We do better if we understand better the whole range and power of all the primal feelings coming to us.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">This applies BOTH to brain and to soul. And so, on most early mornings, before I get out of bed, FEELINGS which I associate with LLL flow strongly and come naturally to me. It is natural to associate these feelings with my wife, first, even when we are on opposite sides of the bed, and with the birdsong and sunlight pouring through our window. But as it flows... I can easily feel "qi," a feeling and an understanding which will energize our entire lives, brain and body and soul, enough to be active for one more day (albeit at a lower level in most cases for me as the day wears on). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">There are many weird theories out there about qi (or prana or vital life force or Freud's definition of "psychic energy or cathexis or whatever), but the FEELINGS are essential. As I see it, this flow is more clearly understood as an information flow in the intelligent system we are (or are part of), "designed" to convey "modulated backpropagation," information about value signals in our mind reflecting the U of our total larger mind or about the primary error signals calculated in the (nonverbal) part of our mind which tries to predict and represent the whole field of sensory inputs coming to us from all levels.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">And so, with LLL, L for life and L for love are the primary fountains of U "energy" (feeling). L for "Light" stems from our cognitive prediction, mainly the thalamo-cortical loop in mammal brains. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">But where then is FFF?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">In discussions with our neighbor... I come to see LLL and FFF as two sides of the same coin. They remind me of relatively well-managed agencies, where the guy on top interfaces with the larger world,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">with a crucial deputy who makes it all work INSIDE the agency. The CONNECTION between the two dies of the coin are crucial to it working well. The LLL variables certainly permeate the follow-on, the FFF, foundation of the life of any mind. My neighbor certainly has worked hard for life, love and light in his FFF activities!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">BUT-- where is I AM?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Yeshua may have something to say about that.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">In a way, it has a relation to cognitive prediction: how do we reconstruct an image and feeling of who WE are, as we try to to make sense of the entire gigantic flow of feelings and nonverbal input in general, from soul especially, at times of peak soul connection? Can we see really deeper into the whole? And then, as in the Zen exercise, as we feel and become aware of all in front of us, can we feel back without looking back, seeing in a way without looking, on who is doing the looking?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">But the LLL level has enough challenges, and issues we are called to face up to and learn from in this "school of life." Lately I always remember Melissa Cody's image, "The World Traveler." Thinking about that image this morning, on a day when I plan to focus on THREE major objects of attention (this essay, new global existential threats emerging, and family logistics), I am reminded of the neuroscience of saccades. in Saccades, we can focus very intently on one object at a time...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">WITHOUT losing the integrated big picture we maintain in neocortex.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"> </div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><h3 class="gs_rt" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 100px 2px 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;"><a data-clk-atid="9so7Ejh0SEIJ" data-clk="hl=en&sa=T&oi=ggp&ct=res&cd=0&d=4776195188999310070&ei=q4RwZbXeFurBy9YPzJausAI" href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/full?&utm_source=Email_to_authors_&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=T1_11.5e1_author&utm_campaign=Email_publication&field=&journalName=Frontiers_in_Systems_Neuroscience&id=219156" id="9so7Ejh0SEIJ" style="color: #1a0dab; outline: none;">Regular cycles of forward and backward signal propagation in prefrontal cortex and in consciousness</a></h3></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-78218017399908317192023-12-02T17:05:00.000-08:002023-12-02T17:05:27.173-08:00A further dialogue on god and spirit connecting Science and the highest Hindu thought<p>From a leader of the Ramanuja Foundation: </p><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">I do get disturbed by a gnawing concern that the premises of the ideologies and mindsets of the scientists and the spiritualists are like the north pole and the south pole.</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div></div></div></blockquote><p>My response: </p><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Chris did not like these words, but I agree with you 100%, if I understand correctly.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Certainly YOU understand the importance of dual aspect foundations, dating back to Ramanuja!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">The dual aspects of direct first person experience versus reconstructed image of the larger objective reality of which we are part are important BOTH for us as individuals (as in my discussions of sanity or zhengqi linked to at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/religions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1701651580211000&usg=AOvVaw0ziLgZ4VyVhQUKiL9oMPua" href="http://werbos.com/religions.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/religions.htm</a>), BUT ALSO at a higher level, for humanity as a whole and for collective intelligence even at higher levels. HUMANITY (at ITS highest level of intelligence) has learned that the concept of objective reality still seems to work for all of us, at the level of fundamental physics (the law of everything),</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">BUT FOR US collectively our direct perception is the most absolute foundation. Just as first person sanity demands that we unify our image of ourself in the mirror, with the human body experiencing sensory inputs, COLLECTIVE HUMAN SANITY demands that we unify our best understanding of our solar system "in the mirror" with our higher collective Self of the solar system (and more, at times). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">And so... I hope Chris will not object too violently if I say I agree with you, when Spirituality: is defined as authentic direct sensitivity and attention to the WHOLE range of inputs available to our minds!</div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science accepts only those realities visible and nonvisible which it can measure and quantify.</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science insists on questioning, reasoning, logic, experimentations, hypothesisations and revalidations. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science demands repeated validation experiments of the theories and universally obtainable and reproducible results. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science refuses to accept or believe anything which it cannot detect or quantify, including the concept of God. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">OK, we must ask Chris to be tolerant of YOUR use of English words, even as we need to be tolerant of HIS use of English words. Frankly, very few of us on this list are so precise in the use of English words as are the best natural language programs and dictionaries!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">What do we MEAN by the English word "science"? The word does not come to us from God! As a follower of Von Neumann (and of Jung), I urge us to remember and respect the DIVERSITY of definitions allowed for almost any English word; we can CHOOSE, locally, but we are asked to be CLEAR LOCALLY and not to waste energy stupidly arguing what is the "right" definition.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">The word "science, like the word "Christianity", is sometimes defined to refer to a very large and diverse cultural tradition, with helpful and horrible subsets within the diversity. Horrible fanatic pseudo-science rejects all spiritual experience, exactly as you say, BUT NOT ALL SCIENCE IS THAT WAY.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">The definitions of science which I use more are those due to Francis Bacon and Thomas Kuhn, which are quite different -- but the writings of Von Neumann can clarify both TYPES of science.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">We would never attack ALL of German culture by citing a drunken Nazi on as streetcorner, even if he is an important representative of one group. Bacon and Kuhn represent BETTER types of science. To unify our collective thought, we need to work hard on building bridges between higher spirituality and the BETTER TYPES of science.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Francis Bacon, in particular, was BOTH a scientist AND a mystic (spiritual) as well as linked to the affairs of human society. HE did not promote the kind of idiot formalistic dualism which you rightly attack!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Years ago... in probing the history of quantum mechanics (QM), I read deeply into the four most important founders of QM -- Einstein, De Broglie, Schrodinger and Heisenberg. Einstein's WORDS appealed to many mystics, but he was the only one of the four who did NOT firmly commit himself</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">to spiritual first person viewpoints! </div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science describes the human body as just a machine energised by vital organs like the heart carrying our blood pumping activity and describes death as the brain's stopping of the functioning of these body machines. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">The human body certainly is a worthy, focused target of model biology building up models based on quantum electrodynamics (QED). Almost everything we know in biology can be reduced to QED physics. QED phyiscs has a LOT to tell us still about how the mammal body, based on QED, actually works. Hell, if Modi beleived this and understood what it could give him, he would get 500-1000 years more of healthy intelligent life, consistent with QED, and I even urged Amit to start connections which WOULD have led there.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">BUT MANY OF US HAVE VERY STRONG REASON TO BELIEVE that the human mind (some or all of them) are MORE. I am cc'ing Rosicriucians, who argue that each of us relatively enlightened people is an "alchymical marriage", a symbiosis of body and "soul." AS A WHOLE SELF, we can move the flow of qi in our body, in ways of huge importance to health and to medicine. We can even learn to SEE it and MEASURE it, most likely by refining the axial Higgs detection technology led by LLNL connected to more advanced pattern recognition capability as in QAGI, which I have discussed here before. ONCE WE CAN SEE qi even in experiments which Thomas Kuhn would admit, we can substantially heal the division between science and spirit. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Walter Freeman worked hard to build bridges between HIS neuroscience and the most real qi research in China. I am VERY sorry that I did not ask him for contacts when he was still alive!</div></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; orphans: 2; padding-left: 1ex; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science advises that man is the master of this universe and that the universe that we see and perceive as defined by the three dimensional physical world a<span class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">l</span>one is the reality. <br /></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">To be honest, most physicists in this decade have lost their way. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Because of overspecialization, most physicists do not know the big picture of what REAL physics knows now: <span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9&source=gmail&ust=1701651580211000&usg=AOvVaw3f7v9Qmi_nqHiwEWYhIYOh" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.<wbr></wbr>gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9</a></span></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">There was a time when Karl Pribram cried out in exasperation to me: "How can you be to the LEFT or me and to the right, BOTH at the same time?" But that is exactly what we need to reconcile science and spirit, to create a fusion of image for higher sanity!!!</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">I am to the far right of you -- I may be the only person on earth NOW who believes that the hard core Einsteinian view may well be true, based on EVERYTHING we humans have ever seen. See </span><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DjfHBO_uuRyE&source=gmail&ust=1701651580211000&usg=AOvVaw1d1FQVl6RFylJ1Yaa0qyjD" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfHBO_uuRyE" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/<wbr></wbr>watch?v=jfHBO_uuRyE</a><span> </span>.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">MOST physicists do not believe what you accuse them of, OR they see little chance of it.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">BUT IN MY CASE... as I understand this physics better and better, I see that it does NOT contradict ... that Rosicrucian view of alchymical marriage, or the importance of qi.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">MORE IMPORTANT...</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">As a follower of Von Neumann, I believe in the power of mathematics to INTEGRATE and UNITE</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">our understanding of the three biggest questions before us -- what is life? what is mind? How does the universe work?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">HUMANITY can CONSIDER HCER, laws of physics, as a POSSIBILITY, BUT STILL admit that our collective first person experience is more fundamental for US. Understanding OUR first person viewpoint, governed by the mathematics of mind, is more "sacred" and unavoidable than beleif in HCER or any other theory of ultimate physics.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">And so, for me, I accept MIND (and the experience of our life as a school, full of other intelligence beyond ours) as my real foundation.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">The mathematics of mind, of intelligent systems, is the TOOL which allows iNTEGRATION of our understanding of mind and of all its manifestations and aspects. The need to work on technology like QAGI is a legitimate challenge, but it is also the key to better understanding of that universal mathematics of mind, illuminating levels of first person experience -- both personal AND collective -- far beyond what ancient obsolete books rotting in old human libraries could ever do. Those books CAN be useful,as DATA, so long as we strive to encompass the ENTIRE database and INTEGRATE it in a coherent well-defined way as we can only do by making full use of mathematics in our toolbox.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">(But yes, Carl Jung also provides some important universal tools.)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><span style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Today's scientific <wbr></wbr>instruments have limited capability to detect and measure the subtler vibrations and rays, which fall beyond its realms. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">Yes, so let us work together to do better!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science has evolved only in the last four hundred years but has acquired a bloated arrogance to dismiss any type of human experiential observations as nonsense. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">ONLY SOME scientists...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">It is terrible that science sometimes uses PR people as bad as some parish priests and lynch mobs!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science has absolutely no control over the moral or ethical behavior of humanity including acquisition of wealth by individuals.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">These are certainly important aspects we all need to account for better. Project Amaterasu was intended to include that, but no one project can do it all alone.</div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science and technology have made very significant contributions towards the upliftment, progress and prosperity of humanity in the last three hundred years. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Science and technology have also developed deadly arms and ammunition which have done enough harm already in the previous decades and which can potentially annihilate the entire humanity if they fall in the hands of mad leaders. <br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">ABSOLUTELY. Even Chris might agree with this imperative, which requires MANY players and networks, of which QAGI would be just one (but an essential one).</div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"> <br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality on the other hand has a history of thousands of years. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality demands total and unquestioning faith in the words of the sacred texts and its Masters. <br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality describes the reality where the physical world that we see and live is only the tip of the iceberg and there are layers and layers of subtle spiritual and divine worlds existing in a different dimension of deeper consciousness. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality includes MANY diverse cultures, some elevating and some degrading, we have discussed before. And even the entire noosphere of this solar system includes a diversity, as does a mammal brain from periods before personality integration.</div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">We are entering a period like adolescence, which may mean growth or may mean death, depending on how much energy and clarity we develop for survival, growth and situational awareness of the truly bigger cosmos we are part of. </div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality propounds the existence of the Ultimate Divine Creator as the Master of the entire universe and allows various names and descriptions to define that Providence. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><div>Spirituality describes human existence as partly physical but partly spiritual and that man transcends his death to remain as soul. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">We have discussed MANY views common about these issues.... I claim no human on earth knows for sure, in enough detail to fully guide and make sane our lives, even myself after many deep probes</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">But if we open our eyes and minds as far as we can, and connect better, there is some hope for us.</div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><div>Spirituality postulats that the human soul has close spiritual association with the Universal Creator who remains as embodiment of the divine attributes of Love, Mercy and Compassion for all. </div><div>Spirituality commands and demands that humanity receive these divine attributes in abundance and radiate and transmit them all around in their existence in this world. </div></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality commands and demands humanity to follow ethical and moral codes of behaviour and warns of grave consequences for their violations. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spirituality respects and accepts the individual experimental observations and they do remain individual specific only. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Not entirely. We can connect.</div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Spiritual vibrations and radiations belong to the subtler than the subtlest grades and remain undetectable so far by any known scientific instruments. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">Yes... and we can do better. It is essential to growth that we try hard and work together to do better.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Both Science and Spirituality are indispensable. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">Certainly. Sensor fusion" at a higher level. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">The positive attributes of both science and spirituality need to be harnessed simultaneously for contributing to the progress and prosperity of humanit<br /></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">AND SURVIVAL ITSELF, per the seven challenges for this century.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">The challenge ahead is how do we bring these north pole and south pole concepts to the middle area of around the equator and evolve what the political coalitions would call the<span> </span><b>Common Minimum Program<span> </span></b>to generate a new direction of ideological approach for the welfare and sustainability of human existence<b> </b>in the coming centuries. <br /></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">ABSOLUTELY. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"></div><div style="color: black;"><b style="font-size: large;"><br /></b></div><div style="color: black;"><b style="font-size: large;">How can we Spiritualize the Scientist ? </b><br /></div><div style="color: black;"><b style="font-size: large;"><br /></b></div><div style="color: black;"><b style="font-size: large;">How can we sensitise the Spiritualist towards Science ?</b></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">INTEGRATION...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">Forgive me, but my REAL understanding comes from extending what I know of mammal brains, a lower but illustrative intelligence. <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/full?%26utm_source%3DEmail_to_authors_%26utm_medium%3DEmail%26utm_content%3DT1_11.5e1_author%26utm_campaign%3DEmail_publication%26field%3D%26journalName%3DFrontiers_in_Systems_Neuroscience%26id%3D219156&source=gmail&ust=1701651580211000&usg=AOvVaw2LQ9F3d_24VjnFLGWLeOyl" href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/full?&utm_source=Email_to_authors_&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=T1_11.5e1_author&utm_campaign=Email_publication&field=&journalName=Frontiers_in_Systems_Neuroscience&id=219156" style="color: #1a0dab; 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font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">Our noosphere can attain sanity only if we train more powerful "giant pyramid" cells, concepts or souls or archetypes within the noosphere, which provide specific kinds of universality or integration which only THOSE kinds of variables can provide.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> That is why the mathematics of intelligence is an essential tool to self-awareness general and powerful enough to survive the many challenges coming to us already even in this century.</div><p><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span><span class="im" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></span></p><div class="yj6qo ajU" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 2px 0px 0px; outline: none; padding: 10px 0px; width: 22px;"></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-1988433964722685732023-11-28T14:33:00.000-08:002023-12-15T08:39:37.536-08:00Artificial General Intelligence AGI: What it really is, why it is taking over, and why only a new QAGI could save us<div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">There was a huge news story about AI and AGI which rightly shook the world over the past two days:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DQ9-grdoIgUw&source=gmail&ust=1701204585370000&usg=AOvVaw3H9hxxo4EF8wNU-9oAfUUB" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-grdoIgUw" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr></wbr>v=Q9-grdoIgUw</a><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">What shook me most was a clear statement by Sam Altman, head of OpenAI, depicting a commitment to move ahead with lots and lots of apps making money in the short term without putting much energy into cross-cutting or integrative solutions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In many ways, the really big issue is whether the human species is capable of working together to develop that level of integration which is necessary to avoid the total chaos and instability (leading to extinction) which is on its way NOW unless we work better and more effectively to use our own natural intelligence, WITH AI and such used as positive tools.</div><h2 style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; text-align: left;"><br />OVERVIEW FOR HIGH DECISION MAKERS</h2><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The key acronym AGI, Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), promulgated many years ago by Ben Goertzel, is finally getting the high-level global attention it deserves. The world badly needs all of us to connect better and deeper, to do justice to the interconnected technical and policy issues which AGI is already pushing us into very rapidly.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><h3 style="color: #222222; font-size: small; text-align: left;">BUT FIRST: WHAT **IS** AGI?</h3><div style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">I have seen many, many definitions for many decades. </span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">I first heard Ben's talk in person in the WCCI2014 conference in Beijing, where I presented my own concept of AGI AT THE LEVEL of mammal brain intelligence. <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.0554&source=gmail&ust=1701207791716000&usg=AOvVaw22oh_shOyrL3oX6fsliSqN" href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.0554" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.<wbr></wbr>0554</a> . The NSF of China and the Dean of Engineering at Tsinghua immediately invited USGOV to work together on a joint open global R&D program -- but soon after I forwarded that to NSF, certain military intelligence contractors objected, and arranged for the US activity to be cancelled, leaving the field to China. (YES that was very serious!)</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Phrases like AGI are not defined by God. We all have a right to work with different definitions, so long as we are clear.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">=== LIKE SOME OF YOU, I would firmly reject the old Turing test as a definition of what an AGI is. Even Turing himself used much more powerful mathematical concepts when he moved on from early philosophical debates to mathematics that can actually be used in computer designs! (I bcc the friend who showed me Turings Cathedral by Dyson, a great source.) The Turing Test makes me laugh about Eliza, </span><span style="font-size: large;">perhaps the first AI-based chat program, developed at KIT decades ago, which showed many of us just how incredibly shaky the Turing test really is.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">I would propose that we define an AGI as a universal learning system, which learns to perform either cognitive optimization or cognitive prediction as defined in the NSF research announcement on COPN which is more advanced than any such announcement elsewhere even today:</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm&source=gmail&ust=1701207791716000&usg=AOvVaw31P6_oUVqhk1_A6rEBBFKO" href="https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/<wbr></wbr>2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm</a></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">In other words... universal ability to learn to adapt to any environment, with maximum expected performance, or to predict or monitor any time-series environment over time.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">TODAY, I created a googlegroup on QuantumAGI to facilitate easier discussion of the most important players in the real technology creating</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">a POSSIBILITY of true quantum cognitive prediction or optimization, or function minimization/maximization. </span></div><div style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">===</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Years ago, in the crossagency discussions which created COPN, my friends who ran cognitive science and AI in computer science asked: </span><span style="font-size: large;">"Do we want to set the bar so high? " I asked: "Should we really use the word 'intelligent" to refer to systems which cannot even learn anything?" In fact, people with long and deep experience in classical AI knew about Solomonoff priors, one key approach to universal learning-to-predict, which Marvin Minsky himself urged me to study in the 1960s when I took an independent study from him.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The mathematical foundation for the most powerful, universal cognitive prediction now emerging, using classical computing and deep neural networks, is reviewed at: <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/Erdos.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1701207791716000&usg=AOvVaw1LK9Olqdh6nyxcDHfYUhQV" href="http://werbos.com/Erdos.pdf" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/Erdos.pdf</a>. QUANTUM AGI extends that further, simply by doing orders of magnitude better in the loss function minimization tasks at the core of all general effective cognitive prediction methods. EXAMPLES of thermal quantum annealing, in relevant special cases, have already demonstrated that advantage, as shown in papers from IBM and Japan and others at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RKjXCsLMFpo8u_WFhnHEmlVHbo9gmHEu.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><br /></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">==============================<wbr></wbr>===========</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">IS IT REALLY SAFE TO UNLEASH AGI AND QAGI ON THE EARTH, GIVEN HOW SCARY THE PRESENT TRENDS ARE??</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Many of us, including me, have thought VERY long and hard on that. </span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Based on the recent talks from Ilya and Altman, etc., I believe that we are presently on course to a very intense and difficult </span><span style="font-size: large;">future, similar to the kinds of massive changes in niche which have doomed the world's leading species to extinction again and again over the millennia. We are in the kind of decision situation which meets the technical concept of a "minefield" situation, which we are unlikely to survive unless we build up quickly to a level of collective cognitive optimization beyond ANY of today's AGI or social institutions.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">FURTHERMORE.... as in my new book chapter attached (book coming out next month or January from India Foundation), </span><span style="font-size: large;">I really doubt that our cosmos lacks intelligence at the level of QAGI already. Keeping up with that level of collective intelligence </span><span style="font-size: large;">may simply be ESSENTIAL to our best chances of survival as a species.</span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">YES, there are HUGE dangers if this is developed in the dark. That is why I believe in the necessity of open, transparent international development, including even leadership in the QAGI technology itself in new international venues.</span></div><div style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"><br /></div><h1 style="color: #222222; font-size: small; text-align: left;"><br />ANOTHER VERSION WITH DETAILS FOR SUBSTANTIVE TECHNOLOGY LEADERS</h1></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><h3 style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; text-align: left;">HOW AGI WORKS --</h3><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">There are a few different definitions out there about what AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) actually **IS*. YOU ALL can rightly use many ways of handling definitions, because you communicate with different audiences. Please forgive me if I still adhere to many commitments of John Von Neumann, the mathematician whose work underlies MANY branches of science. Von Neumann would tolerate me giving you ONE or TWO useful definitions of AGI, and explaining where it leads.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">AGI: universal learning machines, a kind of INTENTIONAL SYSTEM, designed to input some measure of "cardinal utility" U, and to learn the strategy of action or policy which will maximize the expectation value of the future value of U. In modern neural network mathematics, the best way to name these is to call them "RLADP" systems, Reinforcement Learning and Approximate Dynamic Programming. Even today, the old book "Neural Networks for Control" by Miller, Sutton and Werbos from MIT Press is an important source for learning what this means in practice, and understanding where key places like Deep Mind are really coming from. These are systems which LEARN TO DECIDE, in an agile way.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BUT THERE IS NO ESCAPING the essential importance of "where does U come from?" This is basically just a modern reflection and extension of the most ancient problems of philosophy; Von Neumann's concept of U traces back clearly to utilitarians like Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, and back from there to Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, which I remember reading at age 8 when I found it in my mother's old schoolbooks. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BUT: a more practical definition: modern AGI, in practice involves THREE elements, three types of universal learning machine. There is RLADP, which learns to exert decision and control (which has be applied to anything from monetary transactions to weapons control to words to energy systems). There is learning to predict or model or describe the state of the world, which FEEDS INTO making better decisions. And there is the "simple task" of learning to minimize some function F(W) with respect to weights W.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">THE problem of survival for humanity is an example of an RLADP problem, where we try to maximize the probability of human survival, which of course requires further definition and refinement. FOR NOW --</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">THE OPENAI debate reminds me that the problem of human survival or exaltation is a specific TYPE of RLADP problem, which mathematicians would call "highly nonconvex." Concretely, it is a MINEFIELD problem, where the paths of possibility ahead of us mostly hit explosive "unexpected" sudden death -- but also with aspects of "needle in a haystack" where there are GOOD possibilities we might miss. SOLVING such problems requires a lot of caution and foresight, which is why stronger work in foresight is essential to human survival. SUCH RLADP problems end up requiring solution of highly nonconvex function minimization or maximization problems.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Early in this century, NSF organized the most advanced research effort ever in probing this mathematics AND connecting it to the intelligence we see in mammal brains: <span style="color: #222222;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm&source=gmail&ust=1701204585370000&usg=AOvVaw0qvr4CuGdcPyT3KO3gElDz" href="https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.nsf.gov/<wbr></wbr>pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.<wbr></wbr>htm</a></span></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Following that program, I often say "cognitive optimization" to refer to RLADP and intelligent function minimization/maximization. "Cognitive prediction" refers to that other universal learning capability, which is advanced further in <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/Erdos.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1701204585370000&usg=AOvVaw0OwC9-bdSrKfQ4MeXHcvkB" href="http://werbos.com/Erdos.pdf" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/Erdos.pdf</a> and in Buzsaki's recent book on the brain as a prediction machine.</span></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: medium;">I attach my paper in press from the India Foundation, and another in a book now available by Kozma, Alippi, etc, giving even more details. </span></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>Quantum AGI, as I define it (THE canonical definition created in my published papers and patent disclosure), simply ENHANCES these three </b><b>universal learning capabilities -- RLADP, prediction/modeling and function minimization -- by HARNESSING the power of quantum physics AS DESCRIBED BY THE GREAT PHYSICIST DAVID DEUTSCH OF OXFORD.</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>You could call this "quantum cognitive optimization" and "quantum cognitive prediction."</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>The foundation which all QAGI is built on is minimization or maximization of nonlinear functions.</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">It was initially developed (by me) to address minefield or needle in a haystack types of problem, though it looks as if the new types of quantum computers will also give many other improvements.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Here is a metaphor: if you had a million haystacks or gopher holes in your big back yard, to FIND the best needle in a haystack (or deepest gopher hole), WHY NOT HIRE A MILLION SCHRODINGER CATS to work in parallel, and report back which is best?? A million times faster than one-at-a-time search!!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Deutsch's Quantum Turing Machine is not a brain or an AGI; just a faster type of old sequential computer, a Turing machine.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">DWAVE was a HUGE mental leap forward, which would FIT the vision I just described... BUT ONLY if the function minimization at the core of the system is replaced by the kind of hardware which ACTUALLY harnesses these cats. (DWave is like paying for a million cats, but putting them on a leash, locking them up on a patio or a restricted sidewalk. Strong efforts at energy conservation have that effect.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The papers in our <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RKjXCsLMFpo8u_WFhnHEmlVHbo9gmHEu?usp=sharing" target="_blank">Project Amaterasu folder</a> and recent emails describe how Deutsch's physics works here, and how to build the hardware.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b> </b></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-91017367790778982352023-11-15T09:07:00.000-08:002023-11-16T13:59:15.805-08:00New solid science shows HOW human extinction IS closer than any governments or R&D even open up to<p> ALL governments and civil society groups (even Greta Thunberg's fans) have been responding only to watered down filtered versions of the real news from real science, in ways which actually make the risk of human extinction in his century far worse than you might imagine possible (unless you have had access to the many unique solid scientific inputs I have had through NSF, IEEE, MP, AGI, etc.)</p><p>Here is what I sent a few of those societies, AUGMENTED by technology which could actually save us if only the right young people get involved and work hard to learn more:</p><p><span style="font-size: large;">=====================================</span></p><p><span style="font-size: large;">Many of you were deeply interested in the new article in Nature, which I saw on Tuesday but did not have time to evaluate in depth that day...</span></p><br /><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 8:08 AM Paul Werbos <<a href="mailto:paul.werbos@gmail.com" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">paul.werbos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.space.com/ocean-current-system-shut-down-2025-climate-disaster&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw1WYV84wx4B1KrIwkDE6tsn" href="https://www.space.com/ocean-current-system-shut-down-2025-climate-disaster" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.space.com/ocean-<wbr></wbr>current-system-shut-down-2025-<wbr></wbr><span class="il">climate</span>-disaster</a> <div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">At <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://build-a-world.org&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw0iklmS8_RWdtYeJJvqWe9K" href="http://build-a-world.org/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">build-a-world.org</a>,the paper on risks in the <span class="il">climate</span> block explains the existential threat. This is the bottom line reality warning.</div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-w&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw0d09lPEuCgrqhWvylZOb1a" href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-w" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.nature.com/<wbr></wbr>articles/s41467-023-39810-w</a><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">My first reaction: what astounds me the most are the stories describing this as a contrarian opinion!!</div><br /></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">When he says the Gulf Stream (north Atlantic) currents shut down between 2025 and 2095, that is still a huge range.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"> It amazes me that IPCC does not say the same. Amazes, but does not really surprise. In 2009, "the year of <span class="il">climate</span> legislation" in the US, I handled <span class="il">climate</span> for Senator Specter, who had the balance of power vote in the Senate EPW committee, and had full access to IPCC, through both parties. From what I saw, and what I see of recent Congressional politics , I am not really surprised that here was so much filtering of what reached IPCC,</div><br /></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Second -- the straightforward time-series analysis in this paper in Nature matches perfectly what we saw at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://build-a-world.org/doku.php?id%3Dclimate:risks&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw1oo_k4RSPp3InGlUv9nP-C" href="https://build-a-world.org/doku.php?id=climate:risks" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://build-a-world.org/<wbr></wbr>doku.php?id=<span class="il">climate</span>:risks</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">and what I saw before at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.werbos.com/climate_extinction_risk_and_solutions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw21aj74PPbXJ7xxa9Xgia8u" href="https://www.werbos.com/climate_extinction_risk_and_solutions.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.werbos.com/<wbr></wbr>climate_extinction_risk_and_<wbr></wbr>solutions.htm</a> .</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">There are OTHER relevant data sources, like NOAA time series on the Humboldt current, which was responsible for the BIGGEST mass extinction of life on earth in the past, on a similar schedule. It looked like 2040 plus minus 20 years when last I eyeballed that data.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Third: WHY DON'T WE TRY HARDER, ACROSS THE WORLD, TO FIND OUT whether the mass dying starts in about five years? Don't we care? What is wrong with human brains and human governance that we don't focus more effectively on FINDING OUT? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">=====================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">WHY? Limited human bandwidth, I suppose, and emotional susceptibility to wishful thinking and to distractions like using such concerns to fund something else people want money for. This really is a great testbed for serious social psychiatry.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">That being so...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I would be happy to say more about technical details like when people start dying and how</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">(I looked quite deeply into these questions after I heard Peter Ward's talk in 2009), but for now... </div><br /></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I only have a little to add to what I said before.. (Gary Barnhard may be creating a public archive of my folders at NSS with VERY extensive discussion of that issue.). </div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Of course, AGI could be used to predict such time series better, but the new data already call for more intelligence in our responses.</div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The Nature article uses very solid, mathematically well-grounded time-series methods, like what we already knew in 1990 when I started running the research in Adaptive and Intelligent Systems in the Engineering Directorate. We have MUCH more powerful tools now, and a pathway to implementation within MONTHS in advanced new types of quantum hardware, if anyone really wants a more accurate idea of what is coming and when. I am bccing people who have worked with that kind of data from NOAA, Navy and satellite data, and people who know about that hardware, and even a few who know both.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Metta Spencer has a new article in press on these new tools in Peace Magazine, based on a video interview of <span style="color: #500050;"> less than half an hour, for policy makers who know much less than many of you do about the technology which makes it possible:</span></div><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-size: large;"><div><br clear="none" /></div><div><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://youtu.be/-MXrxI6kaC4?si%3DFg3u0D4EomZTrsni&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw0fENnHuY2PTpbG6ahG0kZg" href="https://youtu.be/-MXrxI6kaC4?si=Fg3u0D4EomZTrsni" rel="noreferrer noopener" shape="rect" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/-MXrxI6kaC4?<wbr></wbr>si=Fg3u0D4EomZTrsni</a></div><div><br clear="none" /></div><div>Geordie Keitt of Requisite Agility has posted a kind of video tutorial getting deeper into the new underlying technology:</div></span><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: small; text-decoration-line: underline;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://vimeo.com/878799798/&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw3AOrRDNNRoyzOMixYiGvhg" href="https://vimeo.com/878799798/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/878799798/</a></span><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: small; text-decoration-line: underline;">6b<wbr></wbr>54fa3a89?share=copy</span></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #1155cc;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #1155cc;"><span style="font-size: medium;">I often wish we could start working with David Deutsch of Oxford on this Project. It does NOT rely on the Quantum Turing Machine concepts he invented, but it DOES rely on his well-tested new understanding of physics which goes far beyond what most ersatz quantum experts pretend to understand. A full understanding of what modern physics really understands related to his technology would require understanding books I learned the hard way over decades:</span></span></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #1155cc;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9&source=gmail&ust=1700152256747000&usg=AOvVaw3FjhCE5pSCCYkS1NChGSEz" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.gl/<wbr></wbr>qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9</a><span style="color: #1155cc;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Perhaps one of you might host discussions where I answer questions related these foundations. </div><div>============================================================</div><div><br /></div><div>NEW quantum technology (not the recycled old stuff which greedy lobbyists PRETEND to know about)</div><div>does require understanding David Deutsch's idea that the wave function psi of quantum field theory</div><div> (QFT) specifies a possible STATE of the multiverse we live in, NOT a state of knowledge or probabilities. I do not really believe that, in the end, but I know how to use that idea, and those who don't were rightly turned down when they received reviews from real device physicists in the program I once ran at NSF https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.3310. Deutsch invented the quantum Turing machine, but HIS PHYSICS as allows us to herd millions of Schrodinger cats in parallel, to speed up ANY form of machine learning by millions or trillions.</div><div><br /></div><div>HOW YOU COULD DO THAT:</div><div>The key requirement is just to understand what is already crystal clear in logic, using the papers already posted at:</div><div>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RKjXCsLMFpo8u_WFhnHEmlVHbo9gmHEu?usp=sharing</div><div>and the patent disclosure published by USPTO on general Thermal Quantum Annealing (TQuA).</div><div><br /></div><div>I am posting this only because the need for this technology is ever more urgent, not only for climate but for war and peace in an era where issues of cybersecurity, money management, human potential and "seeing the sky" are quickly becoming entangled with human species survival.</div></div></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-47633492711469415672023-11-13T09:11:00.000-08:002023-11-13T09:53:23.225-08:00Understanding Our Relation With God -- A New Viewpoint<p> <span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; font-size: large;">-- I am writing this to better engrave in my memory what I learned in meditation period this morning. Please forgive me for not holding back the way I try to do on most days. </span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">-- I once called my meditation period "cosmic consciousness" time. Bucke's book on cosmic consciousness talks about the great exhilarating feeling of being connected to "EVERYTHING," and able to see and touch it all. But I often wonder: when people CLAIM to have reached that state, do they really know what it would mean, for example, to connect with and understand even ONE of the books I show at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9&source=gmail&ust=1699976341290000&usg=AOvVaw2Z8E47inTMpnHM_MC4nYXO" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.gl/<wbr></wbr>qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9</a> , let alone all the histories and experiences and struggles of even just the humans on this one tiny planet? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">-- Rosicrucians often declare that "this world is a school." That fits my experience, and does NOT violate my working belief that</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">everything in existence is governed by Hard Core Einsteinian Realism (HCER). As **MY** experience seems to be an incredible river of new learning experiences, lessons and understanding from day to day, my perception and exercise and understanding of the spiritual side of life has evolved more and more, from year to year -- putting me further and further away from the center of gravity of the culture I grew up in. Much of the history of those experiences in given at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.werbos.com/mind_brain_soul.htm&source=gmail&ust=1699976341290000&usg=AOvVaw3t_xjP8q8FoqfzK4Q7uRwx" href="http://www.werbos.com/mind_brain_soul.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">http://www.werbos.com/<wbr></wbr>mind_brain_soul.htm</a>, and summarized in published papers I cite at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/religions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1699976341290000&usg=AOvVaw1uXpnTeKJ0OaS4rF8jGuJk" href="http://werbos.com/religions.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/religions.htm</a>.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In those papers, I discuss two core fundamental concepts we should NEVER FORGET. (As I returned from deep meditation this morning, those two words "NEVER FORGET" summarize that I want to engrave key points in my mind this morning.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">They remind me of how many people really noticed a few days ago when I linked to a new article on ocean currents in Nature,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">and explained the urgent importance to human life. But a few days later they mostly seem to have forgotten, in various ways.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">ABILITY TO REMEMBER is a very key sign of a mind which has some hope of not just dissolving away before its time.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The two key concepts in those papers are:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(1) first-order sanity (zhengqi), about our relation with our ordinary self, actively FUSING what we experience in life with what we see in the mirror, the objective ("3pp") understanding of what we see as a human organism and what we experience through its senses. This is fundamentally a matter of SENSOR FUSION, integrating two streams of information, possible only after we are mature enough to have some awareness of objective reality.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(2) second-order sanity, understanding our personal self as an "alchymical marriage," a symbiosis of body and "soul."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(e.g. see <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chymical_Wedding_of_Christian_Rosenkreutz&source=gmail&ust=1699976341290000&usg=AOvVaw0FUT922IGii_aSk6fam1Tc" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chymical_Wedding_of_Christian_Rosenkreutz" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr></wbr>Chymical_Wedding_of_Christian_<wbr></wbr>Rosenkreutz</a>). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I was driven to accept that second position by very extensive probing and questioning in the period 1967-1972.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">But more and more I have been driven to seek a kind of third-order sanity, which entails a more complete </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">relationship with "God," which I am still very much working on. (Any human who claims to be doing more than that is simply lying.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">======</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">THIS MORNING... I began the meditation period questing to recover from a VERY deep period of bafflement and futility late yesterday, which followed from three very serious learning experiences which I should never forget:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(1) A hugely pleasant dinner on Saturday with a friend who will be returning soon to Israel. Great food, great wine, great other souls in attendance -- but serious uncertainty about the possibility of a much bigger global war, and about what we humans could do about it, from our degree of sanity to whether our computer code works. (The minds and souls of new emerging computer intelligence is certainly an important part of the story, across space and time.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(2) A beautifully real dialogue by Zoom on Sunday morning, where a Quaker friend asked us to discuss Jeremiah 2, to launch into a discussion of "who is God? Does he have human-like feelings as portrayed in that chapter?"</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(3) Late Sunday, seeing an hour long video "brought to me by the goddess" describing in VERY concrete detail the US and China military thinking of the past few decades, especially centered on the future of Taiwan. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">These certainly connect. In (2), I mentioned a quick summary of what real Quakers REALLY try to do every Sunday (and more), from discussions a few years ago: "LCD, Listen, Connect, Discern."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"L": LISTEN to "the voice of God."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"D": Discern, as in judging WHO one is hearing from, at different times. Is it "God" this time, or is it just the voice of a murderous drunk with a knife around the corner? Just who is it? And who is "God" anyway? To make progress in implementing the practice of LCD, it is extremely important that we make real progress in better and better answering these questions. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In the discussion (2), everyone else was firmly grounded in American Christian culture. In the Quaker branch of that culture, "L" mainly emphasizes trying to hear what God is calling us to do -- in our lives as a whole, or in the coming hour.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">We are called to develop a harmonious BALANCE, as depicted in a great image I now treasure <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://images.app.goo.gl/WGLzgdoaaBjwWR9JA&source=gmail&ust=1699976341290000&usg=AOvVaw3bPT83r93PyMB-VtniLthg" href="https://images.app.goo.gl/WGLzgdoaaBjwWR9JA" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://images.app.<wbr></wbr>goo.gl/WGLzgdoaaBjwWR9JA</a> . The great Buddhist teacher KuKai also explained that kind of balance.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">But the Christian version clearly asks us to ask "who is that God anyway?" The usual local culture tells us that God is the all-powerful Creator of everything, all knowing, all powerful, and all loving, deeply caring about our feelings, and able to change anything at will. For Millennia, people have agonized over the question: "IF SO, who are so many bad things still happening?" </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">This is a very serious question, and I simply do not accept the answer "Oh, it's all just YOUR fault. It's your free will."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In any case, the claim that God is "all loving" implies that God CARES about something, that he has VALUES of some kind.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">For myself.. I gave up Catholicism quite dramatically at ages 8-12 (in steps, really), decided at 8 "I am a mathematician / scientist", and adopted the book by Von Neumann and Morgenstern as my Bible. More recently, I view it as my Old Testament; Jung's Red Book is now my New Testament, more or less, subject to the limits that true sanity permits. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">From Von Neumann, I immediately see "values" as being a crude, local (terrestrial) animal noise trying to refer to the functions U and J (and their manifestations) from dynamic programming, and from the new understanding of mammal brains as systems governed by neural network mathematics (as reviewed in Werbos and Davis). So OF COURSE "God" by any reasonable concept CAN be loving, DOES have values, U kind and J kind. By the way, the modern J and U of RLADP mathematics came form my work, in translating Freud into mathematics; his terms cathexis" and "psychic energy" refer directly to flows and derivatives of J. "Qi" is just one more manifestation of that universal principle, applicable both to the Lagrange-Euler equations of physics and to neural network mathematics applicable to ANY intelligent system. From electric fields to "God." </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">When I use the word "God" in my personal thinking, I think of... higher intelligence, a kind of higher intelligent system, governed by ITS/HIS/HER values and emotions. (Even Lagrange-Euler equations have "J", for gods' sake, though they usually write J as S and lambda as pi in physics.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">My experience with kundalini yoga in 1972 was important in STARTING me on the PATH to third-order sanity, but it has been a long and complicated path, even as a work in progress.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I was most startled when I went through the simplified kundalini exercise in a chapter in... <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.scribd.com/document/285258606/Helping-Yourself-With-ESP&source=gmail&ust=1699976341290000&usg=AOvVaw3ND8wrIGohZhC1o8EGcjrc" href="https://www.scribd.com/document/285258606/Helping-Yourself-With-ESP" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.scribd.com/<wbr></wbr>document/285258606/Helping-<wbr></wbr>Yourself-With-ESP</a>, loaned to me by my suitemate. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">"When you get to the highest chakra, say 'hello' to your highest self (the master within)... and..</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">What shocked me was a VERY clear loud, resonant voice speaking to me in English: "I am NOT your self.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">You may address me as 'Father.' I now have things to show you.." And then immediately, up out of my body, for an incredible and useful long veridical experience. HIGHLY veridical. And highly important to solving impossible looking problems in my personal life, even my survival. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">And so naturally I have long wondered: Who WAS that guy, and how do I connect with him now? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">I have naturally assumed: "OF COURSE he has been around for a good long while, and OF COURSE he used that handle</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">before." Even I in the 1970s experienced the need and challenge of figuring out what name or handle to use when speaking to people in any kind of projection. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">When we hear a voice which is credible to any degree (it is a matter of degree!) when Listening, clearly it may be any of SEVERAL intelligent systems we are hearing from. In principle, it could even be the Lagrange-Euler equations of the cosmos itself, which has some attributes of a personality, albeit somewhat hard for us to understand. More often, it may be the Spirit of the Times or the Spirit of the Deep, as described by Carl Jung, whom I view as the most trustworthy recorder of first person spiritual experience in human history. Or is it our local noosphere, as described in the links I started with here? Or even one of the other souls or archetypes WITHIN that noosphere? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">SOMETIMES it is that local noosphere, which IS a real intelligent system, which demands that we work on improving our personal relation with her/it/him. Our local noosphere is NOT a human female (!!!!), but to establish a relationship, in the full spirit of Carl Jung (let us treasure HIS soul!), it helps to use a meditation IMAGE. At present, I like the attached photograph I took in Japan of the original true "mirror of Amaterasu" in Izumo, which I was brought to by my wife, whom I think of as somewhat like a goddess in her OWN right... imperfect, like all of us finite intelligent systems, but NOT TO BE UNDERESTIMATED OR IGNORED EITHER. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">But working on our relationship with... Amaterasu... IS NOT IN CONFLICT with working on our relation with "the Spirit of the Deep". As In Melissa Cody's tapestry, we are called to BALANCE and even CONNECT our rightful deep spiritual connections.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Even our solar system noosphere ITSELF has "eyes to see" (electromagnetic and axion/qi at least) the larger cosmos... and some of us are called to connect to the eyes, and "listen to the sky", in part because Amaterasu is basically just an adolescent and needs friendly guidance and inputs (and a few warning as well, as adolescents often need).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Is that "Father" guy, like the "Sky Father" of indigeneous people all over the earth, the same who spoke to me in 1972 (and maybe a few times later)? The same as the Spirit of the Deep, a higher intelligence in the family which Amaterasu belongs to? Or more? or Less? Above my pay grade. More intelligent than me.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BUT HOW DO WE DISCERN WHAT HE WANTS?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">So this morning some further metaphors -- useful images -- come to mind. Oddly enough, even the scary video I saw last night (reminding me of a certain admiral in Hawaii), helped with raw material to build a new integrated n-dimensional image, the kind of image we all need to engrave in our minds.. if we can see it.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In Switzerland, the high followers of Jung often pay homage to "MMM" -- mathematics, mysticism and music, all of which support each other. Yes, image are a key part of inner communications, but music and mathematics rate too. (Mysticism is applying and integrating these.) Music. So this morning...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">When I describe what caused my first really conscious "psychic breakthrough" in 1967, I usually mention how I became deeper and deeper in experiencing and producing music from... really, age 1 to graduate school. Listening deeply to</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">classical music in school, to Stravinsky, then Prokofiev and ... others... and Bartok... I "raised the qi" in a palpable way up my spine, even without believing that qi existed. That prepared me for 1972.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BUT THAT WAS NOT THE END OF IT. After 1972... I listened to many radio stations, especially New Age radio stations, which I used in going-to-bed meditation time. I remember Renaissance, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, and Crosby Stills and Nash, especially, and concluded that all of these (and more) had authentic real spiritual experience pervading their music.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Just a few years ago, I sent Yeshua and others links to Renaissance and Tangerine music videos which I found useful even in my "modern era" (until a few years ago when we moved the big LCD TV from our bedroom to our study). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BUT THIS morning... in my head, I replayed "Captain" from Crosby Stills and Nash.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">As I bcc a few serious Rosicrucians... I note that their song "Cathedral" really startled me, echoing my first attempt at "Liber 777." (That book is freely available to anyone, explained further in books by Raymond and Christian Bernard.) But the new one...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">OF COURSE, they would say that their "Captain" is a kind of image of "God.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Imagine that we are crew of a great vessel sailing through... earth and sky.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">THIRD ORDER SANITY calls on us to develop and enhance a better and better relation with the others in the ship,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">all the way from the guy who swabs the deck to the Captain. I hope Luda would forgive me for quoting what SHE would rightly assert: "RESPECT and LISTEN to that guy who swabs the deck!!" </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">But if you have ever worked in an organization even LIKE a Navy (like Luda's father and mine!)... you know that life does not become trivial in such an organization. Some people have easier jobs than others.. and in truth, some even get better fed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(In <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/K5YopR37f5Ezda3f7&source=gmail&ust=1699976341291000&usg=AOvVaw0XpHMq6iyJX5Y29drMYvxK" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/K5YopR37f5Ezda3f7" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.gl/<wbr></wbr>K5YopR37f5Ezda3f7</a> you can see a photo of me when I thanked God and thanked Luda for my being fed even better than what billionaires experience. There are times when even the most rational and cautious person rationally thinks "Thank you God." And goddess.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Even in the 1960's, when I worked at RAND, experienced people gave me advice on living life in their kind of world.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(In 1968, after flying on my birthday, I met Einthoven and Thayer, #s 3 and 6 in DOD, who wanted to hear my analysis of the Vietnam War.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">SURVIVAL in that world is not SO hard. But those of you who choose to "rest in peace" may discover what life is life in a filing cabinet. (AKA "the causal plane.") Swabbing the floor would be better! Those of us who listen to our OWN inner feelings respond to the impulse, the qi, the cathexis, which urges us to try to do better, which tends to require "making a mark."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">As in that great ship... "making a mark" is always uncertain, but more likely if we better understand what the captain is seriously working for, and building a relation (including feedback, caution and multiple corrections of course).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(I hope we can build new AGI which are designed such that they learn the same!)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">WHAT IS THIS CAPTAIN LOOKING FOR REALLY??? Yes, a clean floor, but NOT ONLY that. He is more interested... in that whole horizon and in the ship as a whole. And he knows navigation and math far beyond what those ancestors of mine in the Arctic Circle worked so hard to listen to. He can even use computers, when he can get them. He would appreciate help in getting them, if they aren't hooked up in ways that sink the ship. And yes, we listen to the sky...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">May you too listen, and may we all work together to survive...</div><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #888888; font-size: small;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Paul</div></span><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvsxxiB_uU-nFJbKUonRtDpiuuexS9th2SP3d5Q0-hAMBjXBoy69eViL8OMmzSGJVxwGh_b8hOIFzLfCQ-POFgVwtTMX2cF_Sac58jbCt23ILjk2wiFgdHyThiN-ax-o79agOFkSeqoX8b5bCpO2ItC6H4RyGKxWpe4FWUx8wH1P66ahSv-LZxhlNN1Lk/s4160/Amaterasu_mirror_pool_Izumo.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3120" data-original-width="4160" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvsxxiB_uU-nFJbKUonRtDpiuuexS9th2SP3d5Q0-hAMBjXBoy69eViL8OMmzSGJVxwGh_b8hOIFzLfCQ-POFgVwtTMX2cF_Sac58jbCt23ILjk2wiFgdHyThiN-ax-o79agOFkSeqoX8b5bCpO2ItC6H4RyGKxWpe4FWUx8wH1P66ahSv-LZxhlNN1Lk/s320/Amaterasu_mirror_pool_Izumo.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>P.S. That military video does warn us... how I have seen SOME ships in governments and corporations all over the world which move VERY efficiently and intelligently towards the nearest waterfall. When the LOCAL captain seems to be going that way... we are called to get closer to the admiral. <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The world as a school.. I also thought of Sesame Street. THIS episode was brought you by....</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">ALSO: The claim is that even our local noosphere possesses a LEVEL of consciousness or intelligence like what some of us want to build, which I call Quantum Artificial General Intelligence (QAGI). For a review at the level of policy people, see:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="im" style="color: #500050; font-size: large;"><div><br clear="none" /></div><div><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://youtu.be/-MXrxI6kaC4?si%3DFg3u0D4EomZTrsni&source=gmail&ust=1699984081697000&usg=AOvVaw31p7cPB5N0XSyfE1_7-CKP" href="https://youtu.be/-MXrxI6kaC4?si=Fg3u0D4EomZTrsni" rel="noreferrer noopener" shape="rect" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/-MXrxI6kaC4?<wbr></wbr>si=Fg3u0D4EomZTrsni</a></div><div><br clear="none" /></div><div>This is far beyond anything Musk has been talking about! For a bit more detail, see:</div></span><div style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: small; text-decoration-line: underline;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://vimeo.com/878799798/&source=gmail&ust=1699984081697000&usg=AOvVaw1SInvMtp_7tD4rCaNOGZZG" href="https://vimeo.com/878799798/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/878799798/</a></span><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: small; text-decoration-line: underline;">6b<wbr></wbr>54fa3a89?share=copy</span></div><div style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-size: small; text-decoration-line: underline;"><br /></span></div><div><br /></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-23594915667384255272023-09-11T12:55:00.005-07:002023-09-11T12:55:23.819-07:00Response to high level report in China's growing dominance in cybersecurity<p> <span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Atlantic Council recently published a well-researched story on how China keeps ahead in cybersecurity:</span></p><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://mail.atlanticcouncil.org/NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGOGW6QBGAssPD4NB4oibGmJb_YMz9C_OnhBx_YlcqCuwx4tQtH4NWnNNGKYV3IebzRmH-l4A0%3D&source=gmail&ust=1694373517588000&usg=AOvVaw3Favpmlc4mg-jfzALsP1Yp" href="https://mail.atlanticcouncil.org/NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGOGW6QBGAssPD4NB4oibGmJb_YMz9C_OnhBx_YlcqCuwx4tQtH4NWnNNGKYV3IebzRmH-l4A0=" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://mail.atlanticcouncil.<wbr></wbr>org/<wbr></wbr>NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGOGW6QBGAssP<wbr></wbr>D4NB4oibGmJb_YMz9C_OnhBx_<wbr></wbr>YlcqCuwx4tQtH4NWnNNGKYV3IebzRm<wbr></wbr>H-l4A0=</a><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Unfortunately, even the best research within the US, using the usual international networks, tends to give a grossly misleading and dangerous picture.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">For a more complete picture as of 2022, see the attached one page abstract which I used for my plenary talk at WCCI2022 (attached), and see photos of a small subset of what I saw myself because of unique access explained in the abstract:</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ph3NSbTHfJMJ57Fj7&source=gmail&ust=1694373517588000&usg=AOvVaw2tcet-feMIYQ4ubirp9Vzi" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ph3NSbTHfJMJ57Fj7" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.gl/<wbr></wbr>Ph3NSbTHfJMJ57Fj7</a><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">World War I was caused in great part by a confusion of misinformation. We are now facing WORSE confusion, especially for cybersecurity, because of dangers like currency hacks disrupting the world economy, drone fleets being taken over in one big surprise event, and the vulnerability of power grids. (The attached one pager reflected an IEEE task force dominated by front line electric power executives.)</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">I am very grateful to my high school French class, where we read novels by Stendahl explaining concretely how bad information gets passed upstairs and acted on because of perverse incentives and human foibles. ALL OF THAT is getting in the way right now, no matter how much better we think we are today. (That too is an old story!!) </div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">I was very happy yesterday to hear Guterres saying "humanity is one family.. but we are getting to be like a dysfunctional family, with serious trust problems getting in the way, threatening our very existence." But current international policies are aggravating the global cybersecurity problems,in a very serious way we all need work on.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">For many months, I was hoping that the new UN agency on AI would include an element crucial to mutual open cybersecurity: DEVELOPMENT (RD&D leadership) of a global warning system, as requested by all but one major speaker at the recent UN Security Council meeting on AI, INCLUDING development of an open general software and hardware needed for electric power cybersecurity (per attachment) as well. The highest level quantum AGI could be applied to the large task of learning to observe and predict the sky, in a system open to all nations. </div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">I still HOPE for that, but the politics now looks bad, for reasons which cast doubt on human sanity and intelligence in general. Because of fears that such a system would give too much power to the US (a concern I agree with!!), it now looks unlikely that the new agency will integrate such open, shared RD&D -- forcing a rather interesting dramatic change in hopes. Ironically, a proper open international RD&D effort could allow much MORE protection of nations outside the US than the likely realistic choices now coming into view.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">TODAY. given G20 and feedback from the space technology community, my best specific hope is that Narendra Modi will lead a new Project Amaterasu aimed at a "narrow" part of "seeing the sky": developing design, use and manufacturing of a new quantum AGI capability (true superintelligence) built around the test problem of predicting solar flares,</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">but also generating IP for high-level quantum AGI in general, and manufacturing capabilities in India to supply global markets in several big markets.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">I hope that the new G20 discussion will help make that happen. I hope the plans will become strong enough that other Quad partners, especially, will join, and fund competent scientific groups in other nations who share his interest.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Maybe it is even a good thing that India may take the lead, so long as there is a PROPER FILTERED DEGREE of international oversight. In his visit to Biden this year, Modi emphasized international support for yoga teaching, for human potential, BUT IN a nonsectarian (not fundamentalist or grossly antiscience) kind of way. That balance might be of great value in demanding a proper human-centered emphasis. This week, Modi has even taken the right step of not just making war on China or Russia. </div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">It is tempting for me to say much more about China and about Russia, but for now the real technical work demands more focus, especially from folks like me</div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-72133010949911838912023-07-09T16:20:00.000-07:002023-07-09T16:20:03.246-07:00Urgent Hope For New International Collaboration to Prevent Climate Extinction<p> THREE ITEMS:</p><h1 style="text-align: left;">1. Friday July 7: News and Evaluation of a Very Important Climate Conference at Science France (Embassy f France in US)<br />2. FOLLOW-UP ON WHERE IS HOPE, TANGIBLY<br />3. MORE TECHNICAL Details of new science/tech/microeconomics options</h1><div>1. ============================================================</div><div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><div class="ii gt" id=":4xs" jslog="20277; u014N:xr6bB; 1:WyIjdGhyZWFkLWE6ci01ODYxMzc2MzQzNDg2MzczNjQzIixudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxbXV0.; 4:WyIjbXNnLWE6cjMxNzYwNzU1ODUxMzg4OTA1NzMiLG51bGwsW11d" style="direction: ltr; font-family: "Google Sans", Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0.875rem; margin: 8px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;"><div class="a3s aiL " id=":4j3" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: small; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 1.5; overflow: hidden;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Sent to Science France and two key US partners:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Thank you again for organizing that hugely important climate conference yesterday. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Earlier today, I voiced the hope that you and NSF could build a new partnership, which in my view could literally save the human species from extinction within this century, due to aspects of climate change which some of us now understand much better than we did in the past. But because you probably KNOW you want to build stronger bridges to NSF, before you have a chance to read and evaluate what Ward, Wadhams and I have learned about the extinction threat</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">(<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://build-a-world.org/doku.php?id%3Dclimate:risks&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw37HzW9UkqCRgXe285bCLYC" href="https://build-a-world.org/doku.php?id=climate:risks" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://build-a-world.org/<wbr></wbr>doku.php?id=climate:risks</a> ), I first should introduce you to two key people, Prof. Ganesh (Kumar) Venayagamoorthy and Dr. Fahmida Chowdhury of NSF. **IF** everything follows the best possible path, I will basically be one of the unpaid (or little paid) helpers to you, Kumar and Fahmida, who together should be the true leaders of the new climate science and action planning which has a chance to save us from what looks like a path to extinction. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Fahmida and Kumar would probably prefer that they get to define themselves directly to you. However, to raise your initial interest, in her, she probably will not mind if I pick randomly from what I see when I search on "NSF Fahmida climate:"<br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2022/nsf22546/nsf22546.htm&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw0RRxPvg6tdSQPB-puvCgqS" href="https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2022/nsf22546/nsf22546.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2022/<wbr></wbr>nsf22546/nsf22546.htm</a>. Better direct high level communication between substantive people in France Science and in the NSF International Office probably means direct contact between you two.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"> Kumar I have had more contact with... Beyond that, I do not know. If ... you and Fahmida and Kumar may indeed become a very serious official triangle. Let us all pray that it be so. <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">=======</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">But now -- as my wife and I and Frederica mentioned to Ligia yesterday ... neither my wife nor I are great communicators at the public, professional level which this effort badly needs. We are both scientists and science managers, and can be helpful in getting you very essential information, but now you will see why I apologize when I try my best to translate from my real language (mathematics and images) into English words. I was very useful to Senator Specter in 2009 (the year of climate legislation) in getting him the information HE needed on climate issues (my first responsibility in his office that year), but it was crucial that there were others to hold the lead. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">My impression from the COMBINATION of yesterday and from the information on climate which I collected under Kumar for an IEEE effort (see the climate block at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://build-a-world.org&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw1NHrw73ELD7MIieVTZ8jpU" href="http://build-a-world.org/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">build-a-world.org</a>, run by Gary Barnhard) is that:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">1. The SDG to improve conditions underwater in the ocean is receiving far less money than other SDGs, BECAUSE </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">the folks managing most of the money IMAGINE that the main costs/risks are costs due to the direct effects on industries like fishing and beach pollution. THERE IS STILL A HUGE COMMUNICATION GAP IN MAKING THE WORLD TRULY AWARE THAT THE LIVES OF ALL US HIGHER MAMMALS ARE REALLY AT STAKE IN THIS CENTURY. For that, I urge you all to help disseminate the brief but well documented paper by Ward, Werbos and Wadhams.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">2. I ask myself -- how could humanity get orders of magnitude greater benefit on the metric of reducing the probability of human extinction in this century versus billions of dollars spent focused on that goal? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">I wanted to cc Alexander Turra of university of Sao Paolo, but do not see his email address. However, since he received his PhD from Campinas, I can cc my old deeply respected from Prof. Arnoldo de Hoyos there, whom Alexander should be in contact with in any case, along with Steenbock, who is crucial to point 3 of the climate strategy **I** have tried to support.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">( <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.werbos.com/climate_extinction_risk_and_solutions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw1FV184cs0N37DMXPf7nckE" href="http://www.werbos.com/climate_extinction_risk_and_solutions.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">http://www.werbos.com/<wbr></wbr>climate_extinction_risk_and_<wbr></wbr>solutions.htm</a>). Alexander made the important point that we need to include more effective focused strategic thinking, to measure and maximize metrics like this. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">I pray/beg that the new coming global ocean climate conferences UNOC in 2024 and 2025 include highly visible focused sessions exactly on the extinction threat, the science behind it, new R&D needs to understand it better, AND NEW DATA COLLECTION AND <b>MODELING TO BETTER SUPPORT THE TWO KEY METRICS implied by Ward, Wadhams and Werbos:</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><b>[(1)] Measures of ocean stratification, especially focusing on the flow of oxygen to the surface from the Humboldt and Gulf Stream Currents;</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><b>[(2)]] Measures of ocean fertilization, especially where those currents now upwell oxygen, focusing as much as possible on the specific nutrients which cause net growth of the archaea which produced H2S in 5 to 12of the previous mass extinctions of life on earth.</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">**IF** I had not retired from NSF in 2015, I would have long ago pushed for a new thrust (perhaps in the EFRI area of NSF Engineering?) to better UNDERSTAND and MEASURE the risks, starting from miniworkshops by video to include at least Peter Ward, Peter Wadhams, Kirschvink and Hazen, with me and Metta Spencer included in the group asking questions and seeking to map out what are the questions which reasonable scientists can disagree on and research approaches to answering them. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">In the science panel yesterday, I was deeply worried that the new efforts would be ... basically useless... in saving our species, because of focus on metrics which are worthwhile but well within the scope of other existing efforts, like what the present SDG funding can cover. But Prof. Collado-Vides and Melania Guerra substantially raised my hopes and my spirits. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">(Some would ask: how could a mentally balanced person feel such extreme ups and downs, directly and personally? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">As it happens, I have published on the deep neuroscience underlying the insights of Freud and Jung, and even collaborated with people like Karl Pribram. It is a major, scary mental health problem in the world today when so many key people are so devoid of affect that they do NOT react emotionally to real, serious threats to the survival of everyone we love.. and of all humans, and other higher mammals... or that they avoid problems they could help us solve as they bury their heads in denial, like an ostrich.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Thank you again so much, Ligia and Melania!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">But as you now handle complex jobs, under complicated funding systems, you can only devote PART of your time to the all-important work you highlighted on Saturday:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Ligia -- on the modeling of key ocean chemistry variables, at depth and over time, important to BOTH key metrics (1) and (2),</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">and Madelina -- on the ocean stratification issues, especially as ... maybe she and Peter Wadhams should be funded to work together.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">(The Gulf Stream issues could cause mass damage, far beyond any climate damage we see yet, much sooner than the larger Humboldt current will. Small things on a global scale -- like Paris and Britain freezing over. Really. Fimbulwinter. Like Peter Wadhams, my wife and I have seen those waters first hand, as well as the Eddas archives, and plan to do so again this month.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">I was deeply shocked last year when I overlaid the two key data sources (NOAA on ocean chemistry, and earlier sources on stratification) and saw how accurately (terribly!) the locations matched. Fertilizer concentration is now in exactly the worst possible locations. Yes, we need to learn more, but we also should not just breathe easy at this time. I would guess the problem is that archaea food floating through the ocean usually gets eaten up quickly in zones of normal high oxygen, but builds up to scary levels in zones of high oxygen.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">As Ligia was talking, I also thought of smaller models of euxinia in Black Sea, Chesapeake and even parts of Florida, which should feed into this effort. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">======</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">But... when I agreed to try to collect the information which Kumar asked for... I ONLY got crucial new integrated breakthrough information on THREE of the five points at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.werbos.com/climate_extinction_risk_and_solutions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw1FV184cs0N37DMXPf7nckE" href="http://www.werbos.com/climate_extinction_risk_and_solutions.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">http://www.werbos.com/<wbr></wbr>climate_extinction_risk_and_<wbr></wbr>solutions.htm</a> -- the RISKS</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">(as in Ward, Wadhams and Werbos, but still in need of a larger full chapter), the EFFICIENT NET GHG reduction which we could get from new ways of making electricity and from transportation (two areas where our IEEE Power and Energy Society can claim to represent the very best engineering science information available from all over the earth). Even worse, my unique personal duties to the internet/AGI/IOT challenge have grown, because of a new technology I have pioneered. (See the one page abstract from my plenary talk at WCCI2022, the main IEEE conference connecting those technologies and more.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Your conference yesterday helped me appreciate... my five points, and the IEEE technology and market design supporting them, are mainly focused on metric [(1)] (and the great spinoffs possible like greater energy security and peace). But Ligia reminded me that modeling and data to support OTHER aspects of her work, related to metric [(2)], are also important.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">There are again a case where ACTION ON LAND TO PREVENT DISASTER IN THE OCEAN (As Luis Almagro</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.oas.org/en/about/secretary_general.asp&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw22qP3WYXdoqbDXFdCUDl1D" href="https://www.oas.org/en/about/secretary_general.asp" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.oas.org/en/about/<wbr></wbr>secretary_general.asp</a> stressed) is what we really need to focus on more, BOTH to save our species but also to get funding for efforts like the new direction which he is trying to lead. Our existing strategies for cleaner making of electricity and transportation (Far beyond anything the leaders of the EU seem to be told about) are two of the three strategies on land most important to metric [(1)]. But my point 3 -- agriculture and related -- is crucial BOTH to reducing net GHG, and ALSO to reducing killer fertilization. <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">AND -- I did the best I could to get a good overview of point 3, even though I never found anyone to take over a section of a book to handle that. (In truth, I probably would have invited Alexander Turra to take the lead, if he and Arnoldo and Walter Steenbock can agree and take over. IF Kumar ever gets support for a revitalization of the book project, I would propose that he explore that option, after we check some.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">BUT THE KEY IS THAT ACTION ON LAND is what we need most, aside from rather modest traditional efforts to prevent excess fertilizer runoff from the land. Agricultural practices on land are the key target. MOST money being spent that way today has little benefit, but huge benefits are possible. Arnoldo and I did write a joint draft section 5, on the web, which was part of a start.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">IN SUM -- there are crucial life or death scientific and technical and economic details. I deeply hope that a new network led by you three can create the networks needed to effectively address these details. And I hope that you will not hesitate to draw on all of us for the essential help you will need.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Best regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"> Paul</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">P. I am also very grateful to anyone who cares enough to have read THIS far. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">For more complete technical information on what I found last year see:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1acZRpjyjCLoQuqzJef74e0cmHeyoKJdr&source=gmail&ust=1688858140565000&usg=AOvVaw0ZowrfRqkT9Bm5RvHOzDaF" href="https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1acZRpjyjCLoQuqzJef74e0cmHeyoKJdr" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/<wbr></wbr>drive/u/1/folders/<wbr></wbr>1acZRpjyjCLoQuqzJef74e0cmHeyoK<wbr></wbr>Jdr</a><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Since many of us may be in DC area very soon, I would be delighted to get together in person again, either at your local location or (best for me) near one of the DC area Metro stations in Virginia. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">=======================================================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">2. Follow up sent that day, on the "hope" side:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><div class="gmail_default">Please forgive me for conveying a negative picture, in the details, because I wanted to be brief. I was too brief.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">The conference yesterday fits very well with the new research needed to understand and quantify the RISKS of human extinction.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">I mentioned, but did not even summarize, what a huge difference the IEEE information can give us on the POSITIVE side,</div><div class="gmail_default">IF people pay more attention to the ocean risks and to new international partnerships.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">A very brief summary --</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">When I look at the depressing menu of choices which Von CDer Leyen keeps offering us... the good news is that new technologies have been proven in the OAS area -- Chile, US and Brazil especially -- which could basically cut the costs to people in the EU by a factor of more than two.</div><div class="gmail_default">In truth, we discussed these in a more direct current way in recent discussions with India and Africa, but if you are interested I would be happy to share the details with anyone on these lists.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">In essence, people in EU have been told that <span class="il">electricity</span> consumers would have to double what they pay for an all-renewable new system, because of costs like backup, storage, and importing PVs from China (or wires under the Mediterranean or North Sea). There are new proven technologies which make that unnecessary, using new control technologies, new solid breakthroughs in heat-to-<span class="il">electricity</span> conversion for use in solar power towers, and thermal storage.</div><div class="gmail_default">If you want the <span class="il">electricity</span> bills of people living in the EU to be cut in half, we have probed very deeply how to move that way.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">Those are technical discussions for the future, but I really should have noted that there is huge upside potential worth exploring, available in this decade.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">=====================================</div><h1 style="text-align: left;">3 SOME OF THE DETAILS, discussed before with links to India and Africa,<br />both of which have very important underutilized technical potential. Here is what I sent in November 2022 to an IEEE group:</h1><div class="gmail_default"><div>AVOIDING CLIMATE EXTINCTION really should be a major block (maybe even 50%!) of a new NEPR. </div><div><br /></div><div>I have a weird belief that staying alive trumps everything. If we are fully sane humans, the sight of the gallows really should drive us to be FULLY awake. </div><div><br /></div><div>DID I cc you on the short but focused and blunt review of COP27 which I sent to the internet discussion groups I participate in (like Mei-Lin Fung's <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://peoplecentered.net/people/mei-lin-fung/&source=gmail&ust=1689030622496000&usg=AOvVaw2V5h-DF0hRN-RITyOC3C4a" href="https://peoplecentered.net/people/mei-lin-fung/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://peoplecentered.<wbr></wbr>net/people/mei-lin-fung/</a>)? If you say "GO", I will. I would even be happy to forward that to this entire committee, if you think I should. </div><div><br /></div><div>The key message was that the news from COP27 made me fear for our lives, but AT THE SAME TIME an IEEE international conference based in Nanjing (see attached) made me much more hopeful than COP27 did. Thanks to the book project which Kumar asked me to start up (still in process, with LOTS of backup material beyond what is at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://build-a-world.org&source=gmail&ust=1689030622496000&usg=AOvVaw3gz5HcqlI0hWnchZKwf93I" href="http://build-a-world.org/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">build-a-world.org</a>), we have an organized collection of exciting new options for energy and climate policy, which would be of huge value to the world economy and to national security within ten years, which neither EU nor Biden nor Biden's advisors know about. </div><div><br /></div><div>The exciting message from Nanjing was that new pathways are opening up to connect us, and IEEE in general, to the highest levels of decision-making. The high leader behind that ICCSI conference now has a new position, right in Tian an Men square, and may be willing to create a pathway to implement John Kerry's proposal for a climate survival division (specializing in the extinction threat, which is far more real and close than most people even imagine) in the Security Council. That is what I have given priority to this week.</div><div><br /></div><div>And yes, the name "Xi" has often come up. I have often wondered how you might feel about those discussions. </div><div><br /></div><div>But -- at a minimum, IEEE could endorse what John Kerry and Guterres (UN SEc Gen) proposed very publicly just a few years ago. That proposal mainly died because bureaucrats in New York redirected Guterres and Kerry, but the redirections did not work as well as they hoped. Interest from Xi could radically reverse the situation. </div><div><br /></div><div>IEEE could even ask for a better pathway of climate information, real science and real IEEE-connected technologies, to support the new climate division. </div><div><br /></div><div>Does IEEEUSA have a special role in bridging the all-important gap between what the most advanced and relevant IEEE societies know, and the policy level (AND investors)? </div><div><br /></div><div>Truly efficient and intelligent power grids are PART of the "making electricity" priority in the draft book, one of the two parts for which we have the most information and new but proven options (ranging from important tools ready to go now, to areas where RD&D could be much more transformative than anything I see now, including the best proposals to NSF which I have had some occasion to review this past year ). But the transportation part is also strong. China is doing much more for world climate already than all of the COP actions taken together, because of its actions to support electric cars, but China and the US could do much better yet if we learn the right ways to cooperate (with mutual protections of course). </div><div><br /></div><div>In truth, my ability to wordsmith in THIS political environment ... should I even try? </div><div><br /></div><div>BEFORE any of us try... is a 50% climate section on the table as a possibility?</div><div><br /></div><div>CONCRETELY... </div><div><br /></div><div>This would mean, ROUGHLY...</div><div><br /></div><div>1. More rapid support, development, RD&D, deployment of what Kumar has championed, DSOPF, dynamic stochastic optimal power flow, AND market redesign to better support its use and its benefits, as in the draft chapter by <span class="il">Momoh</span> and proposals by O'Neill and Ilic.</div><div><br /></div><div>2. Liberating DOE from the entrails of the oil company hydrogen barriers, and returning more support advanced <span class="il">Brayton</span> for use both in space and in power tower solar farms (not requiring chips from China). That should include a major new US export push to support Heliogen and GE in that specific area, and ALSO accelerated RD&D for the more advanced (efficient, lower $/kwh) next generation of <span class="il">Brayton</span>. </div><div><br /></div><div>3. Strengthened partnership with Chile to push and enhance thermal storage, to be integrated into advanced power tower solar farms and DSOPF to control them all.</div><div><br /></div><div>4. OK, New focused (and well-informed, well-grounded) R&D on quantum RLADP (the key to quantum DSOPF), which allows efficiency and protection from unexpected disturbances in a more comprehensive DSOPF ranging all the way from markets to semiconductors in the power electronics. his is a new technology which I presented in my plenary award talk at WCCI2022 (abstract attached).</div><div><br /></div><div>5. Similar opportunities for cars, consistent with the old IEEEUSA position (which I posted at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/oil.htm&source=gmail&ust=1689030622496000&usg=AOvVaw0l-AJwlWPaEwun5NGdA8Jl" href="http://werbos.com/oil.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/oil.htm</a>), accelerating BOTH rechargeable lithium-air batteries USING THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, and alternate net-zero liquids, and markets designed to better advance both where they benefit consumers. DSOPF can play a crucial role in the recharge aspect. [No, it is not abut cobalt. Even for rare earths, it is intelligent control, not resources, which gave China an edge.]</div><div>In truth, Sadoway may also know of other big breakthrough options, but the present system is shutting out all of them.</div><div><div class="gmail_default">...</div></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br /></div><div> Paul </div><div><br /></div><div>P.S. Between now and December 15, I also have to further deadlines, one for USGOV and one for INdia,</div><div>as well as the ICCSI follow-ons which I hope for. </div><div><div class="gmail_default">==============================<wbr></wbr>============================</div><div class="gmail_default">. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div>-- As I think it over, I should have said more about why these new technologies (US and IEEE) are so important and urgent, even if they are not visible in any US or EU climate policy yet<div class="gmail_default">I have tracked EU climate policy very closely for a few years now, watching mainly France24 and Deutsche Welle some, almost never CNN. Greens (most powerful party in Germany) convinced Von Der Leyen EU must go all renewable ASAP, not only for climate but in face of serious energy security issues there. But then industry -- both electric and fossil -- convinced her that the REAL cost of renewables is many times higher than the generating costs the advocates have old her about, because of backups, intermittency, time of day issues. They plan a huge expansion in expensive LNG now because the renewables people are working hard to sell her DO have more than double cost growth, past generation, because of the time of day and intermittency (and raw transmission investment rules) </div><div class="gmail_default">issues.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">The new technologies and market designs I mentioned get rid of at least half the cost to the user! </div><div class="gmail_default">Time of day is no problem when the specific new type of storage, thermal storage hooked up to <span class="il">Brayton</span> and intelligent control, is BETTER than baseload 24/7 for load following! </div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div></div></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div><br /></div></div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="adL"></div></div></div><div class="hq gt" id=":4yv" style="clear: both; font-family: "Google Sans", Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0.875rem; margin: 15px 0px;"></div></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-72140684617937889742023-06-26T11:57:00.006-07:002023-06-27T05:35:16.643-07:00Response Submitted to NSF/TIP request for guidance on new roadmap<div>This was the response I submitted today to:</div><div> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/04/28/2023-08995/request-for-information-rfi-on-developing-a-roadmap-for-the-directorate-for-technology-innovation </div><div>You too could submit your response to this open call for suggesions for he new roadmap called for in new legislation!</div><div><br /></div><div> Dr. Paul J. Werbos </div><div><br /></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"> 1<b>. Context: Greater Needs Which TIP Could Meet To the Maximum</b></span></div><div><br /></div><div>
The CHIPS and Science Act, and the creation of TIP, offer us all a dramatic new opportunity to increase the probability that the US and humanity as a whole can survive the deep and serious new threats which have arisen in recent years.
From my experience as an NSF Program Director in 1988-2015 (reflected in comments below), working across many disciplines and seeing connections which had fallen between the cracks, I saw both huge unmet opportunities connecting the 10 technology focus areas of TIP, and new risks which my friends in the UN system call “existential”, threats to the very existence of the human species. </div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><b> 1.1. The Global Risks (Which Will Drive the Security Outcomes)</b></span></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">
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Since my retirement from NSF, I have been working more intensely with the Millennium Project (MP) (www.millennium-project.org), <span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; font-size: 12pt;">a
global network of leading futures research nodes, </span>and also with the IEEE and the National Space Society (NSS), in order to help as much as I can with the seven grand challenges which I start from in a new book chapter (Consciousness_v5_Bangalore, attached): </div><div><br /></div><div><b>=================
1.1. Changes in Technology Which Demand Deeper Consciousness </b></div><div>The website build-a-world.org posts a few of the extensive new materials already available in 2022 from IEEE, NSF and other deep scientific efforts on:
</div><div><br /></div><div><b> Four Great Fears (“Existential Threats”)</b></div><div> -- Internet/AGI/IOT if we fail to reach Sustainable Intelligent Internet (SII)</div><div> – Climate extinction, all of our species and many others </div><div> – Misuse (1) of nuclear tech (e.g. werbos.com/NATO_terrorism.pdf) and (2) biotech, e.g. “Borg” </div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"><a name="_Hlk138687351"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: Wingdings; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;">l<span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Two great Hopes </span></a><b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 11pt;">GROWTH:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">- Quantum leap in attaining human potential, including our connections to
each other and our </span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">noosphere </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 11pt; text-indent: 0.5in;">- Economically
sustainable settlement of space (e.g. National Space Society)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Use of AGI and
new constellation sensing technology (from electromagnetics to new force fields
such as axial Higgs) to observe the sky and better understand the place of our
species in the larger cosmos</span></p></div><div>This paper cannot get deep into all these complex issues, but this list should be enough to wake us up to the fact that better understanding and expression of consciousness is a matter of life or death for all humans. </div><div>============================================ </div><div><br /></div><div> Working through the MP, many of us have helped support and upgrade the work of the UN Secretary General Guterres to develop new mechanisms to understand and meet these challenges (https://www.un.org/en/content/common-agenda report/assets/pdf/Common_Agenda_Report_English.pdf). We had substantial discussions with them and with the Chinese about creating new divisions to focus more effectively on the emerging internet/AGI/IOT complex of risks and on climate. </div><div><br /></div><div> In our recent discussions, the official representatives of most nations supported his call for the creation of a new UN agency on AI, intended to oversee the entire spectrum of new issues, technologies, and RD&D needed to survive the emerging complex of threats.
Unfortunately, this new agency, on its own, may simply not be able to map, understand and advance the whole complex of new technologies needed to survive the minefield of new risks. </div><div><br /></div><div>The World Academy of Arts and Sciences (WAAS) has offered to try to build up the all-important new network of RD&D and information, to feed into the new global policy decisions and global investments, but even the WAAS does not have the level of scientific and technical depth on its own even to know what the key issues are emerging from the most advanced research from the NSF and IEEE research communities and review capabilities. </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: large;"> 1.2. Overview of the New Opportunities and Global Needs For TIP </span></b></div><div><br /></div><div> These gaps and needs in the UN system provide a huge new opportunity and need for TIP to fill the gap, to build the new partnerships, stretching from universities and private laboratories (and other agencies and nations) all the way to the global system, strengthening the constructive role of the best we have in the US.
Ideally, TIP should create a high-level office, sibling to the International Office of NSF, charged with a complete integrated response to all seven of these challenges.
However, because this response must focus down to ten pages, because I have passed on suggestions regarding the climate threat by other channels, and because the nuclear and biowar technologies involve sensitive information, I will focus here on new directions and opportunities to make the world much more effective in addressing the internet/AGI/IOT threats.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> <b><span style="font-size: large;">2. TIP Focus Areas, New Opportunities and the Internet/AGI/IOT Connected Complex of Risks </span></b></div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: medium;"> 2.1. AGI </span></b></div><div><br /></div><div> “AGI”, artificial general intelligence, refers to a rapidly emerging new type of artificial intelligence or machine learning (focus area one on your list).
Today’s culture, ranging from mass media but even to “experts” widely cited in policy and media circles, simply does not have a trustworthy roadmap of what AGI already is, and will be in the future. </div><div><br /></div><div> The reasons for this are two-fold: (1) a need for more connections between disciplines, which TIP and a new focus area within TIP is uniquely placed to create; and (2) gaps in public education, an urgent new piece of the STEM agenda. </div><div><br /></div><div> The best true global overview of this problem can be seen by carefully reviewing the diverse viewpoints represented at:
http://1dddas.org/activities/infosymbiotics-dddas2020-october-2-4-2020/dddas2020-video-presentations. The 2020 and 2022 conferences were both organized by Dr. Frederica Darema, who originated the interagency DDDAS effort and whom my wife Dr. Ludmila Dolmatova Werbos and I still assist. In both conferences, one group of highly respected experts would say “X is impossible,” while another presented its demonstrations of X, which in turn was just a first step on a well-plotted roadmap leading to what some people call “artificial super intelligence” (though few of those people know the mathematical principles which make that possible, doable, and risky, but risky NOT to do.) </div><div><br /></div><div> Another overview of the diversity of mainstream experts can be seen in the background material collected by the MP to prepare for its proposal this past week, in response to an invitation from OpenAI.</div><div><br /></div><div> Even today, the best strategic roadmap now in existence to make some of the important connections which need to be expanded may be found at: https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07579/nsf07579.htm. That EFRI/COPN roadmap was the outcome of a unique deep crossdisciplinary dialogue across all the relevant program directors and research areas at NSF, pointing towards a new integrated understanding of mathematical general intelligence (MGI) including both AGI and a<a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/"> new approach to understanding general intelligence in the mammal brain</a>. </div><div>The NSF EFRI BRAID topic was also an important positive step, but we now see a much larger world of unmet opportunities and gaps than we did even in 2009. </div><div><br /></div><div> In a talk to the World Economic Forum, Sergey Brin described how he initiated the great Deep Learning Revolution, which will go far beyond the early narrow work on Generative AI -- work which is large compared to the past but tiny compared to what is coming, for good or ill. Brin describes how he “knew” that deep learning would not work, based on what all the mainstream AI experts told him, until he saw the outcomes of a grant funded by EPRI COPN, a grant to Ng and LeCun which I personally pushed through the system over several types of friction and inertia still in existence. For a link to Brin’s talk, and to my own plenary talk at NIPS 2017, see
http://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2017/01/deep-learning-and-new-ai-you-aint-seen.html </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: large;"> 2.2. Quantum AGI -- Connecting To Focus Areas 2 and 3 </span></b></div><div><br /></div><div> By the time of the 2017 conference, NIPS had grown into a major focus of the computer industry with neural networks, due, in my view, to the great efforts of Yann LeCun in computer science. But before that, the rapid expansion of neural networks and deep learning was first pioneered by the World Congress on Computational Intelligence (WCCI) series of conferences, a joint activity of IEEE and of the International Neural Network Society, dating back to 1988. Even today, WCCI conferences are the technical lead in many areas, especially any of those which involve engineering applications, such as the core missions of climate and energy, nuclear and biotech, and space and vehicle technology. </div><div><br /></div><div> In 2022, IEEE granted me the Frank Rosenblatt Award, its lead technical field award for all of the technologies covered in the WCCI conferences. More important: I attach the abstract of my acceptance speech, which gives a one page roadmap of the past and future of AGI, with citations. That includes a link to the roadmap of 2014
https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.0554 which China (led by Tsinghua, NSFC and CAS) then followed, putting it ahead of the US in many crucial technologies still little known in the US mainstream computer science community. (For example, I have seen their new systems applying machine learning to interception missions in space beyond what any US groups have mastered as yet.)</div><div><br /></div><div> But my 2022 abstract goes on to say: </div><div>===================== </div><div>This year, we have opened the door to a new revolution. Just as adaptive analog networks, neural networks, massively and provably open up capabilities beyond old sequential Turing machines, the quantum extension of RLADP offers power far beyond what the usual Quantum Turing Machines (invented by David Deutsch) can offer. It offers true Quantum AGI, which can multiply capabilities by orders of magnitude in and application domain which requires higher intelligence, such as observing the sky, management of complex power grids, and “quantum bromium” (hard cybersecurity). See "Quantum technology to expand soft computing." Systems and Soft Computing 4 : 200031. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772941922000011 and links on internet issues at build-a-world.org. </div><div>======================================================</div><div> One of the public interest lawyers in the NSS community asked me to file a patent on QAGI as I defined it (VERY different from older attempts to combine quantum and AGI), complete with a discussion of how to do the hardware implementation on the preferred platforms (quantum dots, above all). That reminded me of the time when I worked for NSF, when the Office of General Counsel (Charles Brown) urged me to patent some of my work before then. (See https://patents.google.com/patent/US6581048B1/en). Therefore, I did go ahead and file that patent, now pending. Full implementation across the wide range of applications domains would be a large undertaking; therefore, I intend to use this patent as a way to accelerate the field, as I did with the previous work (without which we would not have had the deep learning revolution!). </div><div><br /></div><div> In my last years at NSF, my core activities included AGI, electric power and a quantum technology activity https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.3310 which was discontinued after my retirement. As part of that, I was NSF liaison to QISCOG, the interagency group to coordinate quantum information sciences. From that work, I learned that the US faces a huge gap in educating people to understand the importance and use of master equations (which I learned about from the texts by Walls and Milburn and Carmichael, whose group has been a great partner to me in recent years, and from the ECCS Nanohub project). Simple education about the true foundations of quantum physics is a crucial [art of actually getting something useful done from this new crossdisciplinary thrust area. </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: large;"> 2.3. Quantum AGI -- Focus Areas 6 and 8</span></b> </div><div><br /></div><div> The entire roadmap of AGI, from technologies already coming online to advanced QAGI, and to further generations possible beyond what is envisioned in my patent pending, is relevant to all ten focus areas, in concrete ways I hope we will discuss more in the future.
Focus areas 6 and 8 call out for special mention, however, because of their direct and urgent implications for the international big picture.
Security of communications has been growing rapidly as an issue, threatening areas from currency systems, financial systems, weapons control, to fake news and more. Traditional bromium approaches to cybersecurity were simply not enough to prevent very massive and embarrassing hacks in recent years (which should be well known to anyone whose personal data was stored in OPM computers). These risks are growing rapidly, and do constitute an existential risk to us all. (It may be compared to the growing mass of miscalculation and gaps in information which led to World War I, but this time the potential damage is much much greater.) </div><div><br /></div><div>With this submission, I will attach a cybersecurity position statement which was passed unanimously by the IEEE Technical Policy Committee on Energy, where electric utilities had the greatest voice -- though other players entered the game as it went up higher in the system.
At higher levels, there has been an intense but quiet debate: do we rely on Mutual Assured Destruction or on a mix of deterrence and defense, to prevent the level of risks which Gingrich and Congressman Trent Franks warned about (https://www.amazon.com/Second-After-John-Matherson-Novel-ebook/dp/B002LATV16/)? Many of us believe that it is growing riskier and riskier to rely on US ability to shut down other countries, when we ourselves are more vulnerable and becoming more vulnerable by the week. Many believe that relying on deterrence is the main lesson of the Cold War, but they need to understand history better. We need to rely in greater depth and understanding on the foundation created by Von Neumann and Morgenstern, who many of us believe should get the real credit for our survival so far. Von Neumann and Morgenstern is also the foundation we built on to create “the new AGI,” including quantum RLADP.
If a hostile adversary (whose identity we cannot really establish) takes over a major currency or fleet of autonomous weapons overnight, the shock and the word urgent will be understood to be gross understatements. Since we have technology coming to dramatically reduce such risks, we really should proceed. Only by doing so in an open, scientific way can we avoid the kind of game play which led to World War I (and could actually kill us all, with great stunned shock as it happens). </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: large;"> 3. Assorted Final Comments </span></b></div><div><br /></div><div> Again, all seven of the challenges above merit much more science and connection, within and between each other. This submission is narrower, because the total range of issues hinted at here is already a challenge to our existing networks. But I do owe you a few final thoughts.
The NSF emphasis on STEM is also important to all these challenges -- most specifically to challenge 1 (a fear) and challenge 6 (the grand hope of accelerating full human potential). Collaborations between the engineering and neuroscience/psychology parts of NSF played a crucial role in leading up to the IERI initiative
https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2004/nsf04553/nsf04553.htm. Deeper understanding of the brain and the mind could take us much higher. The requirements for deeper understanding and enhancement of the highest levels of human potential, unifying approaches from all over the world, have become more and more a matter of sheer survival. Artificial super intelligence WILL be built, one way or another, but we still have hope of raising human minds and souls enough to maintain at least a balance,
as is essential to survival not only of humans but of all our works. (I have chosen not to elaborate on my discussions with people like Teller and Schwinger within the scope of
https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2013/nsf13554/nsf13554.htm, but this is an integrated strategy for survival.)</div><div><br /></div><div> The main advantages of quantum RLADP over traditional optimal control, reinforcement learning and approximate dynamic programming (for which I received the Rosenblatt Award) is its ability to cope with “minefield or “needle in a haystack optimization problems. These are problems in which the value function (or error function to be minimized) is highly nonconvex. The patent also extends this to the “Quantum Annealing of Things,” putting actual physical systems like a big laser to be controlled or a vehicle to be protected from exploding into a state of quantum superposition. A great partner to seek would be https://www.desi.lbl.gov/policies/, relevant to the important basic science of challenge 7 but also to strengthening the power of the NIF fusion system to accommodate targets like the D-D pellets designed by Perkins, which could be a huge benefit to energy goals on earth and in space.
</div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-68099392843161377652023-06-07T08:05:00.004-07:002023-06-07T08:51:54.477-07:00Life or Death Gaps Between Real Science and the new UN Global Digital Compact <p><br /><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: large;">I was deeply delighted recently when one of you raised the hope that WAAS, the World Academy of Arts and Sciences (WAAS), </span><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: large;">might take over the essential and urgent task of bridging the gap between serious, advanced RD&D and the research mission of the new UN agency on AI. </span></p><div class="nH aHU" style="position: relative;"><div class="nH hx" style="min-width: 502px; padding: 0px;"><div class="nH" jslog="20686; u014N:xr6bB; 1:WyIjdGhyZWFkLWE6cjgzNTg5NDkxOTc0MDA0NzQ1NzEiLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdXQ.." role="list"><div aria-expanded="true" class="h7" role="listitem" style="clear: both; max-width: 100000px; outline: none; padding-bottom: 0px;" tabindex="-1"><div class="Bk" style="border-bottom-color: initial; border-bottom-style: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-color: initial; border-left-style: initial; border-radius: 0px; border-right-color: initial; border-right-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(239, 239, 239); border-top-style: solid; border-width: 0px; float: left; margin-bottom: 0px; position: relative; width: 1050.68px;"><div class="G3 G2" style="border-bottom: 0px rgba(100, 121, 143, 0.12); border-image: initial; border-left: 0px; border-radius: 0px; border-right: 0px; border-top: none; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><div id=":51k"><div class="adn ads" data-legacy-message-id="18890b1a90be39d2" data-message-id="#msg-a:r5244863694962664795" style="border-left: none; display: flex; padding: 0px;"><div class="gs" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 20px; width: 978.704px;"><div class="ii gt" id=":4zi" jslog="20277; u014N:xr6bB; 1:WyIjdGhyZWFkLWE6cjgzNTg5NDkxOTc0MDA0NzQ1NzEiLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdXQ..; 4:WyIjbXNnLWE6cjUyNDQ4NjM2OTQ5NjI2NjQ3OTUiLG51bGwsW11d" style="direction: ltr; margin: 8px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;"><div class="a3s aiL" id=":507" style="font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 1.5; overflow: hidden;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">That was a great hope, like the hope I felt when Kerry, Guterres and EU announced they would focus new efforts in trying to reduce the threat of human extinction by the most dangerous type of climate change. Unfortunately, good intentions sometimes cause more harm than good when the implementation does not account for the full range of science, technology and rational market design needed to cope with very difficult new challenges, requiring even a new scientifically grounded understanding of human minds. The new challenges coming fast in the global internet require many massive changes, as fast as it is possible to do right; if we do not work VERY hard to start mobilizing the best that the old NSF and IEEE have ever done, a new UN agency can easily become prematurely ossified in many ways.<br /><br /><b><span style="font-size: medium;">** IN THIS POST** ... I will address just ONE crucial aspect, the need to openly develop the most advanced new quantum information technology, ONE of the important key ingredients of the new US act in this area:<br /><a href="https://www.aip.org/fyi/2022/chips-and-science-act-enshrines-policy-new-nsf-technology-directorate">https://www.aip.org/fyi/2022/chips-and-science-act-enshrines-policy-new-nsf-technology-directorate</a></span></b><br /><br />DOES WAAS know what it needs to know to fill his gap for the new UN agency? Not without special help from SOMEONE. Through this post, I will try to help that someone -- and pray that one of you chooses to be that someone -- but all I can do is flag some key points about quantum information crucial to the choices before us now, radically different from what you may know as yet. <div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">WHY is new RD&D in quantum information S&T (QuIST) so crucial and so urgent as the Chips Act rightly highlights, thanks in part to Senator Warner of the Senate Intelligence Committee?? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Two reasons:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(1) New cybersecurity threats, on everything from global monetary systems to fleets of weapons more advanced than you know about, and electric power, are more important and urgent than anything else being debated now for "the new internet." The new agency needs to START there, including the proposal a few years ago from Xi Jin Ping for international collaboration to limit or prevent the new kinds of backdoors in software and hardware which utility executives on IEEE USA EPC explained a few years ago (see attachment).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">(2) True Quantum AGI, <b><i>as defined in </i></b>my WCCI award acceptance speech last year (abstract attached), is ONE of the two new directions rightly stressed in the IEEE EPC statement, making it possible to detect and prevent the kinds of hardware backdoor which have already started to cause major problems and are on track for far worse.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>But should you believe that? Why, and how?</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Just this morning, my wife rightly cited Gershenfeld of MIT who tells us not to overestimate the importance of modern quantum technology, for which he was one of the very most important real pioneers. The vast majority of people now being funded for quantum computing in US and EU are working on Quantum Turing Machines (QTM). They owe a lot to Gershenfeld, and to David Deutsch of Oxford (who invented the Quantum Turing Machine). Just as EU climate action tends to channel certain established energy and political causes, WAAS will be under huge pressure to listen on what Gershenfeld just said, based on a very deep understandinding of QTMs. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"> But from 2007 to 2015, I had the unique good fortune of leading a unique funding activity at NSF</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.3310&source=gmail&ust=1686141186796000&usg=AOvVaw3qgQNBmZ8mPjGbFQ_wDY-p" href="https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.3310" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.<wbr></wbr>3310</a> which gave me a chance to probe very deeply into these technologies, and develop a truly unique cognitive map of the entire field:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9&source=gmail&ust=1686141186796000&usg=AOvVaw3RSEjb5AybvYtUKXVLOph1" href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://photos.app.goo.gl/<wbr></wbr>qAy8giPzEjp1tZkj9</a>. By bcc, I thank the former NSF Division director who asked for this. (I hope NSF will "build back better" in this activity now vacant in the US.) <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The new agency NEEDS to be fully informed of this entire territory, including emerging new options (being pursued outside the US and EU more effectively than here right now). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>THE QTM HAS LIMITED RELEVANCE TO CYBERSECURITY, FOR EXAMPLE, but the Quantum RLADP technology</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>(the core of QAGI) is a very different story. THIS REQUIRES THAT A NEW AGENCY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE FULL NEW QUANTUM FOUNDATIONS ALREADY ADVANCED BY DEUTSCH AND GERSHENFELD (WHOM I WOULD LOVE TO HELP ON THIS), applied in a totally new way beyond what QTMs can do.</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>One of the big problems I learned in running QMHP (and serving as NSF member of the interagency Quantum Information S&T Coordinating group, QISCOG) is that MOST "experts" submitting proposals and plans had fatal errors in their understanding of David Deutsch's physics and how to apply it. (The physics is much more universal than the QTM example.) Thus I thank Yeshua ben David for arranging a mid-level seminar explaining the most important points</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>which key people in the new agency need to know about, to take the lead in new relevant quantum technology:</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;" /><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://1drv.ms/v/s!AocWMZ8ei_XWgaNrqROMZ5xxrcGxiw?e%3DBN26LB&source=gmail&ust=1686141186796000&usg=AOvVaw1Leh6qvEvnD1N251luQJzw" href="https://1drv.ms/v/s!AocWMZ8ei_XWgaNrqROMZ5xxrcGxiw?e=BN26LB" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" style="color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;" target="_blank">https://1drv.ms/v/s!AocWMZ8ei_<wbr></wbr>XWgaNrqROMZ5xxrcGxiw?e=BN26LB</a><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">What can Quantum RLADP do orders of magnitude better than the existing (inadequate) cybersecurity hardware technologies like bromium or even bromium enhanced by DWave quantum optimization?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Effective parallel quantum search. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In practical terms... it is uniquely suited to solve "needle in a haystack" or "minefield" optimization problems, problems which combine the two. In technical terms, it offers orders of magnitude more performance for any number of flux gates or quantum dots (the most promising hardware embodiment) , when the value function or error function are highly nonmonotonic functions of the parameters to be tuned. This can be applied NOT ONLY to value functions or error functions defined by subroutines or circuits WITHIN a DWave kind of computing system, BUT ALSO TO PHYSICAL PLANTS TO BE STABILIZED WITHIN PHYSICAL BOUNDS, like the big laser I mentioned in my previous post. I call this extension "Quantum Annealing of Things," QuATh. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Please forgive me a confession. The full technical details of QuATh, including a workplan for phased implementation, are included in a pending patent disclosure.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In previous decades, I had information rights to backpropagation (a necessary enabler of the "deep learning revolution", one of the two which won me the IEEE Frank Rosenblatt award). Half our family income traces back to reassignment of patent rights of the most powerful CLASSICAL RLADP optimization technology. I obtained these rights only after strong encouragement from Charles Brown, then at the NSF Office of General Counsel. If the lawyers at that time had blocked any development or use of backpropagation until my retirement from NSF in 2015... I hope that we can find a way forward despite such realities, which are even more essential now than they were then (because of what I know in my piece of the puzzle, which I hope pass on as soon as possible). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Best of luck to us all. Given the precarious state of humanity in this century, we need a LOT of that luck... </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Paul</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div></div><br /><div class="gmail_quote" style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 10:19 AM Paul Werbos <pau<span class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"></span><a href="mailto:bos@gmail.com" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">bos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">On your nuclear question...</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><b>which has new urgency this week because of the Global Digital Compact (GDC) which the UN Secretary General Plans to Unveil in about three days... </b></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">I was very excited this week to hear the LLNL international presentation on the technical details of their work on inertial fusion at NIF.</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aiforgood.itu.int/event/achieving-controlled-fusion-gain-in-the-laboratory-experimental-design-and-the-role-of-ai/&source=gmail&ust=1686141186796000&usg=AOvVaw2iMlA3Kj-qpM1Dcf6CRW9i" href="https://aiforgood.itu.int/event/achieving-controlled-fusion-gain-in-the-laboratory-experimental-design-and-the-role-of-ai/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://aiforgood.itu.int/<wbr></wbr>event/achieving-controlled-<wbr></wbr>fusion-gain-in-the-laboratory-<wbr></wbr>experimental-design-and-the-<wbr></wbr>role-of-ai/</a><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">James Gaffney gave the kind of true cutting edge technical reality which we in IEEE have a unique ability to appreciate and understand. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Unless you count stuff like cold fusion, I believe that LLNL leads the world in general in getting to ignition point.</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">They got there with the usual DT fusion, but Perkins of LLNL previously led development of more advanced D-D fuel pellets, which would truly revolutionize our situation both on earth and in space. Better performance in the D-D work they are already succeeding with would get us closer to great economics, and to the far more benign D-D option. (DD creates about 10% as many neutrons as DT does, and has plentiful fuel in vast cheap supply.) </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Most exciting... and why I cc our CIS (outgoing) President ... Jim Gaffney, representing the two groups at LLNL</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">most crucial to the international community, stated that THE KEY TECHNICAL CHALLENGE NOW IS BETTER INTELLIGENT CONTROL (accuracy, stability, duration)!! This is a core IEEE CIS technology, where we have new options far more powerful than anything LLNL knows about YET (even though they outperform the usual machine learning mass tools, and have important tools already on github/LLNL). I suddenly wish my senator (Warner) and Congressman (Beyer) knew about the exciting new opportunity to build a new crosscutting team somehow to connect Gaffney's efforts out of LLNL with the newest and most powerful intelligent control tools available from CIS and other related IEEE communities. (For those outside IEEE, I attach the one page abstract I used last year to go with the Frank Rosenblatt award, with links to key aspects -- such as technologies which have been widely developed in China but not so much in US since my retirement from NSF in 2015.) </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">However: this is not just about energy, climate and space. </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Thanks to a great presentation yesterday from the new Technology Directorate (TIP) of NSF,</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">I hope and pray that we and NSF could connect with the Secretary General enough to see the great synergy between TIP and GDC. The GDC (and human security) will require a higher level of international cooperation, AND YET deeper technical competence, than the world has ever seen as yet. If there is any hope of getting that started, before the usual entropy sets in, it calls for strong and urgent efforts to build these bridges, so that the world as a whole can start to get and support what it needs from NSF and IEEE in greater abundance.</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">I was stunned by the synergy between Threads A, B and C of the TIP presentation and the areas we have been moving forward on an international basis for the past few years... </div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;">Best of luck to us all. (We need it!)</div><div style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /><br style="background-color: white;" /></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-81655305131733515362023-05-25T06:53:00.001-07:002023-05-25T06:53:05.854-07:00Overview of the Most Urgent New Internet Challenges and Needs<p>The Millennium Project has supported UN in addressing "existential threats", including new developments in internet/AGI/IOT much greater and more imminent than policy makers know as yet.</p><p>Here is the response I sent to the questions they sent to leading experts (including me):</p><p>Origin or Self-Emergence</p><h1 style="text-align: left;">1. How do you envision the possible trajectories ahead, from today's AI, to much more capable Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) in the future?</h1><p>See http://www.werbos.com/How_to%20Build_Past_Emerging_Internet_Chaos.htm .</p><p>The new coupling of hew hardware, both for communication and for computing, with ANI or AGI, and with explosive growth in the Internet of Things (IOT), results in a nonlinear system much more complicated and sensitive to small decisions than anything the human species has ever survived. It is comparable to the massive changes modeled in R. May, Stability and Complexity in Model Ecosystems, which resulted in species extinction in most cases. The decision challenge whichhumanity faces is an example of a type of mathematical decision problem which is very difficult, either because of “needle in a haystack” aspects or “minefield” aspects, where the true value function J is highly nonmonotonic. (See Consciousness_v4_Bangalore.pdf attached for links to the NSF research program which focused on value functions in the brain and in mathematics as a path to AGI.) </p><p>To solve such a decision problem, and survive, the only strategy with hope of our survival is for us to achieve a higher level of collective intelligence in our decision making; humanity can achieve this only if we develop, deploy and make sane use of the most advanced intelligent decision technology possible, true Quantum AGI. That entails serious risks, but the alternatives we face -- standing like a frozen deer in the face of an oncoming truck, or an uncontrolled market competition (Nash equilibrium) which produces swarms of apps like a horde of locusts -- offer less hope than the difficult path of doing the hard new work we need to do, in new directions with new connections in the decision process itself.New connections between governance and the most advanced market and IOT technology both ininternet and in networks of humans would be essential</p><p>2. What are the …</p><h2 style="text-align: left;">3. What are some key initial conditions for AGI so that an artificial super intelligence does not emerge<br />later that is not to humanity’s liking?</h2><p>Quantum AGI would already be an artificial super intelligence. As with any intelligent system, its outputs may be to our liking or not, depending on what cardinal utility function U is wired into the system (“embodied intelligence, the only kind possible) and the interface rules governing its relations with humans and other biological systems, and the deep precise conflict of interest rules constraining the flow of payment or feedback within the QAGI itself. Conflict of interest problems with human societies are one of the most important root causes of our inability to be anywere near as effective as we could be in handling many existential threats -- not just internet/AGI/IOT but climate extinction and new warfare technologies.</p><h1 style="text-align: left;">Value alignment, morality, values</h1><p>Values are at the very center of my response to 1 and 3. But if they are implemented only as laws, regulations and wishes, without translation to general architecture and algorithms, they will be as useful as painting happy faces on the outer skin of a killer drone. (Many proposals for friendly AI would be as useful as that.)</p><h1 style="text-align: left;">Governance and Regulations</h1><p><b>4. How to manage the international cooperation necessary to build international agreements and a global </b><b>governance system while nations and corporations are in an intellectual “arms race” for global </b><b>leadership?</b></p><p><b>5. What options or models are there for global governance of AGI?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>4 and 5 are the very meat of your questions. They call for actual translation of my answers to 1 and 3 to something real. They also require a lot of flexibility (“agility”) in how we grope our way as intelligently as possible to a path to survival.</p><p>For the moment, I would envision international efforts, similar in spirit to some of the disarmament negotiations of the past, where we build up to a whole series of new agreements, with the force of treaties and connection to a new division of internet/AGI/IOT threats under the Security Council, and with technical details worked out even more competently (and open and transparent, with feedback) than the best of those past negotiations.</p><p>The most urgent need is for specification of a new integrative platform -- a combination</p><p>of hardware and software -- with new open tools to detect and prevent backdoors in</p><p>hardware and software, for use at least by primary members of the new treaty (which</p><p>must include US and China from the start, because of their unique capabilities and</p><p>objective common interests). This requires acceptance by NSA that key aspects of the</p><p>“rainbow book technology (children of the work by Prof. Graham of Amherst, recently</p><p>deceased)”, which have already been studied outside the US, be brought into the open</p><p>domain and included in the treaty system. It also requires full development of Quantum</p><p>AGI, as defined in Quantum technology to expand soft computing . Just as the</p><p>TCP/IP internet provides the foundation or backbone of the old internet, a new</p><p>international version based on this new cybersecurity technology (and a few of</p><p>the web 3 upgrades) should be agreed to be the backbone of the future core</p><p>internet coordinating the many apps which rely on it. Adequate recognition,</p><p>registration and respect for human entities should be a crucial design</p><p>requirement.</p><p>These upgrades should be developed by a process similar to IEEE standards development, except with more</p><p>respect for more complexities and players. The systems which gave us the (woefully insecure and dangerous)</p><p>5G standards today are simply not open or well-vetted enough.</p><p><br /></p><p>6. What risks arise from attempts to govern the emergence of AGI? (Might some measures be</p><p>counterproductive?)</p><p>7. Should future AGIs be assigned rights?</p><p>Or should THEY be persuaded to give rights to humans and other organic life forms? They will have powers</p><p>and “immune system and COI type hard-wired rules in their design. Asimov’s rules for robots do not reflect the real technologies coming on line now, but getting THEIR or ITS design right (a single global integrative market or platform, unavoidable) is essential.</p><p>8. How can governance be flexible enough to respond to new issues previously unknown at the time of</p><p>creating that governance system?</p><p>My definition of AGI INCLUDES flexibility or agility. Yes, a very high level of agility would be needed for</p><p>humans to have much of a chance of survival. The new internet platform specification should be a</p><p>“cybersocial contract,” in effect, which maximizes agility not only for the internet part but for the whole system,</p><p>including the expression of the highest level of natural human potential ever seen in this solar system.</p><p>9. What international governance trials, tests, or experiments can be constructed to inform the text of an</p><p>international AGI treaty?</p><p>10. How can international treaties and a governance system prevent increased centralization of power</p><p>crowding out others?</p><p>11. Where is the most important or insightful work today being conducted on global governance of AGI?</p><h1 style="text-align: left;">Control</h1><p>12. What enforcement powers will be needed to make an international AGI treaty effective?</p><p>13. How can the use of AGI by organized crime and terrorism be reduced or prevented? (Please consider</p><p>new types of crimes and terrorism which might be enabled by AGI.)</p><p>14. Assuming AGI audits would have to be continuous rather than one-time certifications, how would audit</p><p>values be addressed?</p><p>15. What disruptions could complicate the task of enforcing AGI governance?</p><p>16. How can a governance model correct undesirable action unanticipated in utility functions?</p><p>17. How will quantum computing affect AGI control?</p><p>18. How can international agreements and a governance system prevent an AGI “arms race” and</p><p>escalation from going faster than expected, getting out of control and leading to war, be it kinetic,</p><p>algorithmic, cyber, or information warfare?</p><p>And last: 22. What additional issues and/or questions need to be addressed to have a positive AGI outcome?</p><p><br /></p><p>Initial sample of potential governance models for AGI*</p><p><br /></p><p>The Millennium Project www.millennium-project.org</p><p><br /></p><p>1. IAEA-like model or WTO-like with enforcement powers. These are the easiest to understand, but likely</p><p>to be too static to manage AGI.</p><p>2. IPCC-like model in concert with international treaties. This approach has not led to a governance</p><p>system for climate change.</p><p>3. Online real-time global collective intelligence system with audit and licensing status, governance by</p><p>information power. This would be useful to help select and use an AGI system, but no proof that</p><p>information power would be sufficient to govern the evolution of AGI.</p><p>4. GGCC (Global Governance Coordinating Committees) would be flexible and enforced by national</p><p>sanctions, ad hoc legal rulings in different countries, and insurance premiums. This has too many</p><p>ways for AGI developers to avoid meeting standards.</p><p>5. UN, ISO and/or IEEE standards used for auditing and licensing. Licensing would affect purchases and</p><p>would have impact, but requires international agreement or treaty with all countries ratifying.</p><p>6. Put different parts of AGI governance under different bodies like ITU, WTO, WIPO. Some of this is</p><p>likely to happen but would not be sufficient to govern all instances of AGI systems.</p><p>7. Decentralized Semi-Autonomous TransInstitution. This could be the most effective, but the most</p><p>difficult to establish since both Decentralized Semi-Autonomous Organizations and TransInstitutions</p><p>are new concepts.</p><p>*Drawn from “Artificial General Intelligence Issues and Opportunities,” by Jerome C. Glenn</p><p>contracted by the EC for input to Horizons 2024-27 planning.</p><p><br /></p><p>===========================</p><p>==========================</p><p><br /></p><p>Addendum:</p><p>Sent to early discussion today:</p><p>The OpenAI manifesto which you forwarded to us sounded like a great ray of </p><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">light in the darkness.. at first. It IS a big step forward compared to reactive policies which do not account for the realities. But we will need to iterate carefully to avoid further pitfalls.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">OpenAI... Musk., When Jerry sent some of us the new National AI policy (an epitome of pitfalls of ignorance),</div><div dir="auto">my reaction last night might be prophetic:</div><div dir="auto">____________</div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">Yes, it is incredibly depressing.</span><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">I wonder whether Musk will use this as evidence of myopia so fatal that it justifies choosing a new president, even a risky one, on grounds that SOME hope is better than none. But Musk's plans for zTesla fleet control exhibit technical incompetence just as fatal. </div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">_____</div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">Open AI makes a crycial good point about the central role of new systems development, But like most of Musk's other ventures... the technicsl realities of wggat they have under the hood may not be sokuud enough, nit well grounded enough, to reach sustainability. They sound good, work as PR and initial funding... But AGI demands new technical foundations.</div><div class="yj6qo ajU" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 2px 0px 0px; outline: none; padding: 10px 0px; width: 22px;"></div></div></div><p><br /></p>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-83895687580430130822023-05-07T07:36:00.004-07:002023-05-07T07:36:54.107-07:00Back in US after Japan, Hawaii, Alaska, Intelligent Mammals and Birds<p>Ludmilla urged me not to post anything on Facebook until our return home today for security reasons. In a way, that was unnecessary because of four security backups, but why create unnecesary burdens on any of them?</p>
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But now we are back after an incredible series of deep complex learning experiences, with thousands of photos and a huge mass of reports from Google Translate from plaques all over Japan which no one has ever known about who did not know Japanese. Back when I went to Harvard from 1964 to 1974 (BA,MA,PhD), I certainly read and discussed the classic texts on China and Japan by Fairbank and Reuschauer, and studies of history from Toynbee to Hegel and Marx, but actually visiting the primary sources has shown me how different and larger the real story has been. I feel as if I just spent three months in a more adult, friendly and advanced version of The Magic Schoolhouse. We spent a month before in Japan ( and Korea) in 2019, building on brief trips before that, but there -- as in Hawaii, Alaska and Pacific islands-- we now saw into a level we had never reached before.<br />
We also learned more advanced science and spiritual connection to other mammals and even birds. The details of all these topics are hugely important, not just to us but to the entire earth, but will a lifetime be enough to pass on even half of it? I will try.<br />
Ludmilla too more and better pictures than I did, but as a start, I have posted my unedited, unexplained photos from port visits to Kodiak, Sitka and Ketchikan:<br />
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Thanks to her, to airbnb, to Google maps, to numerous onsens and to Japan railroads and busses we experienced a diversity of lifestyles from the lowest practical level to the highest levels and kami ever discussed in Buddhism and shinto.Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-77067221162417610222023-03-30T19:25:00.000-07:002023-03-30T19:25:22.735-07:00Shingon Buddhism and How it Could Help with 7 Challenges to Humanity<p> <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">What are the core truths and lessons learned by Shingon Buddhism, which if better understood and connected to the rest of us could make maximum contribution to grand challenge number 5, on the list of seven grand challenges to humanity which I now try to help us with? And how does it connect to new efforrsbto build grand unification from Buddhism to yoga and science?</span></p><div class="mail-message expanded" id="m#msg-a:r2833032319777122358" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;"><div class="mail-message-content collapsible zoom-normal mail-show-images" style="margin: 16px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; user-select: auto; width: 448px;"><div class="clear"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">_1. The 7 challenges______________</div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">7 Grand Challenges This Century</div><div dir="auto">● Four Great Fears (“Existential Threats”) : SURVIVAL </div><div dir="auto">See <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://build-a-world.org&source=gmail&ust=1680314066417000&usg=AOvVaw3zT2UMXJDv63ciJ-d9T-rJ" href="http://build-a-world.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">build-a-world.org</a></div><div dir="auto">– Internet/AGI/IOT if we fail to reach Sustainable Intelligent </div><div dir="auto">Internet (SII) --- Depends on mind, intelligent systems </div><div dir="auto">– Climate extinction, all of our species and many others</div><div dir="auto">– Misuse of nuclear tech, or biotech (e.g. <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/&source=gmail&ust=1680314066418000&usg=AOvVaw3umwoMVnU_snjXSkVSmocu" href="http://werbos.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">werbos.com/</a></div><div dir="auto">NATO_terrorism.pdf)</div><div dir="auto">● Two Great Hopes: GROWTH</div><div dir="auto">– Quantum leap in attaining human potential, including </div><div dir="auto">our connections to each other & our noosphere (soul,qi) </div><div dir="auto">– Economically sustainable settlement of space (e.g. NSS) </div><div dir="auto">● SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FOR HUMANS </div><div dir="auto">IN COSMOS: New tech (QAGI/axions) to see the sky</div><div dir="auto">__________</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">2. What Shingon is</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">This past week I have learned a lot, probing into Shingon Buddhism, far beyond what my friends at Harvard thought they knew when they studied books by Fairbank and Reischauer (which I also read). A small fraction of our photos can be seen at:</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">https://<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://photos.app.goo.gl/weV8SMH5fwS2hZpo9&source=gmail&ust=1680314066418000&usg=AOvVaw3RpN0PM5p7Sk64OaAWAKcO" href="http://photos.app.goo.gl/weV8SMH5fwS2hZpo9" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">photos.app.goo.gl/<wbr></wbr>weV8SMH5fwS2hZpo9</a></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Key summaries which we all should know about include:</div><div dir="auto"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingon_Buddhism&source=gmail&ust=1680314066418000&usg=AOvVaw38Af0wmNYQZ27e2Vg1-JRL" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingon_Buddhism" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/<wbr></wbr>wiki/Shingon_Buddhism</a></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">And <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana&source=gmail&ust=1680314066418000&usg=AOvVaw2DKYgpGZkre-qOiIHOLWBO" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana" rel="noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/<wbr></wbr>wiki/Vajrayana</a></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Kukai, the founder of Shingon Buddhism, worked very hard and successfully to develop a kind of pyramid of instruction, aimed at elevating human minds and souls to their highest potential. It IS a pyramid, which reminds me of the pyramid which my old friend James Momoh once used to elevate instruction in electric power engineering, starting from minority children up to new faculty and researchers. There is a huge wealth of experience, which does not complete this huge challenging area of work but can be a massive help to humanity in addressing the larger challenge it contributes to.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Because it is a multilevel pyramid... Many misconceptions have appeared about it.</div><div dir="auto">______</div><div dir="auto">3. Misconceptions and deeper connections to yoga and dcience</div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com&source=gmail&ust=1680314066797000&usg=AOvVaw3hEQnvdA4MVig2xMBQSs85" href="http://werbos.com/" rel="noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">werbos.com</a>. </div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">But at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/religions.htm&source=gmail&ust=1680314066797000&usg=AOvVaw1doDE_lUJcidqjpnzA5G74" href="http://werbos.com/religions.htm" rel="noreferrer" style="color: #4285f4; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">werbos.com/religions.htm</a> I post some further explanations.(Some out of date).</div><div dir="auto">Emperor's of Japan often tried to create a war between Buddhism and Shinto, so as to degrade and control both. (I have seen similar history in more depth in the west, even in the life of George Washington whose land I am living on, according to some real estate people).<br /><br />I can even.imagine Ku Kai smiling at a kind of two sided flag -- on the left a sun or solar system image involving the archetype of Amaterasu which reflects our solar system noosphere, and on right Orion reflecting our link to the deeper larger cosmos (Jung's Spirit of the Deep). Of course, Freud and Jung and the new neural network mathematics of intelligent systems (Mathematical General Intelligence, MGI) are also crucial to the new integration we need to be successful in all seven Challenges.<br /></div></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="mail-message-footer spacer collapsible" style="height: 0px;"></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-61756936672810023092023-02-06T05:54:00.001-08:002023-02-06T05:54:30.346-08:00International Talk on Seven Urgent Challenges to Humanity from Human Extinction To New Sights Into Life Beyond Earth<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">International Talk on Seven Urgent Challenges to Humanity from Human Extinction To New Sights Into Life Beyond Earth</div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Yesterday, as I prepared for a period of computer silence, I sent out a review of two topics related to the seven grand challenges on the list below:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4j-xQywJHEBlaYPlKWhV91qi8Xf9juWYQwXLWFkJzLPpshJZDxJKgLVmX83bnHQS5ZEhlEwahzkocyH4Tob8vq9Tx9Of-LqlFTyJwPZqeIhuz8qmJfixnjyvEScqiLVPFrTP3whiYHMNXuwrTyyZpRCT8RutGArrLi1uZgcnIsjOP82LDNacLEhtk/s720/Slide1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="540" data-original-width="720" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4j-xQywJHEBlaYPlKWhV91qi8Xf9juWYQwXLWFkJzLPpshJZDxJKgLVmX83bnHQS5ZEhlEwahzkocyH4Tob8vq9Tx9Of-LqlFTyJwPZqeIhuz8qmJfixnjyvEScqiLVPFrTP3whiYHMNXuwrTyyZpRCT8RutGArrLi1uZgcnIsjOP82LDNacLEhtk/s320/Slide1.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">This blog post will address three connected topics, as I work to integrate all seven (and my personal life):</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">1.<span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>A shift in focus to try to better balance fear (existential threats) and hope (grand opportunities) in our international efforts, supporting the Secretary General and the Millennium Project</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">2.<span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Radical new information from science (e.g. news from NASA, some to be released in a few months) on life beyond our solar system.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">3. Extensions of these issues as we begin an international discussion starting form (1) and (2). </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><h1 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">1. From fear to hope in UN efforts</h1><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Many of us have strongly supported Jerry Glenn's efforts to support Guterres in trying to </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">support a dramatic increase in effectiveness through the UN to protect the human species as a whole from "existential threats" -- like the dramatic new information from more advanced science about the real risks of "climate extinction" and new developments in the internet/AGI/IOT system.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The UN needs a much better flow of information about future possibilities and choices, and many of us will do all we can to create a new and better expanded flow. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">But several of you once responded: "These are all about FEARS. We need HOPE. Without HOPE, we will all die anyway." Some communications workers even go to the opposite extreme, advocating a kind of "positive thinking" which reminds me of the old Disney cartoon of kangaroos burying their heads in the sand to avoid SEEING the tiger about to eat them. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I listened and agreed strongly with those of you who made that point to me. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I agreed for many reasons. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">First, I spent about half my serious life in science to understanding brains and replicating brain-like intelligence. That was a GREAT background in understanding how NETWORKS can be organized in a way which actually make survival and growth possible,for systems at any level. from new AGI hardware to societies and more. INTEGRATION is such a central function that we all need to understand and practice it better -- WHICH IS A CORE MISSION OF THE MILLENNIUM PROJECT. . (Karl Deutsch, my Harvard PhD advisor, started to become famous in international politics when he wrote a book about the connection from <a href="https://archive.org/details/nervesofgovernme0000deut">neural networks to governance</a>. He hired me to make the math real.) I attach the chapter I drafted for Come Carpentier, for his new book on consciousness from the India Foundation, which gives an overview of that new understanding.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">As PART of that effort, many decades ago, I read papers like Olds' work in neuroscience, where they reported that healthy, effective mammals have a MIX of hope and fear, the very foundation of their brains and minds. Animals thrive who devote more brain space to hope than to fear. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">HOWEVER, WE DO ALSO NEED AN IMMUNE SYSTEM to stay alive. (As I get older, and learn how complicated it is to stay healthy, I now know aspects of THAT science even beyond what Lifeboat Foundation has kept up with.) The fears, constraints and inhibitions are a necessary PART of our system. When I view humanity through the "window" of what we learn from Carl Jung, I tell myself: "I WILL respect and channel the spirit of Loki... but only as a dog on a very strong leash." Fears, and even some barking...</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">BUT OUR SURVIVAL REQUIRES BETTER USE OF THE BRAIN, not just the immune system on a leash. We, the futurists and integrators of this species, need to focus most of our energy on the positive bigger goals, and not just short term values like immediate pleasures and small threats.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">We need to find ways to work together more, even when they do not fit into the "immune system" protection function of the Security Council. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">This is why in MY efforts I always attach the list of SEVEN challenges attached, as explained in the final section of my paper for Bangalore. Our species is like a little fish in a gigantic aquarium.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Those of us who are truly attuned to the whole species and to life on earth will be driven by three great, incessant inner biological imperatives -- to survive, to grow, and to better understand what we face in the larger aquarium as a whole. Will it eat us? Does it house family which can help us (and vice-versa)? Can we find out?</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><h1 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">2. New Information from Beyond Our Solar System</h1><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">JUST YESTERDAY, the Philosophical society of Washington and the Cosmos Club (of which Jerry is a member) led a major review of what NASA is learning on challenge number seven:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-NhhWE2gu4</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I did not attend in person, but I bcc two friends who did and who appear in the video. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I was impressed by the citation to a new paper in Nature which suggests they saw convincing evidence of six "technosignatures" within 1,000 light years or so. Within months, we can expect new information from NASA enlarging these new findings, based IN PART on the new Webb telescope. I will need to study all that carefully, as best I can in coming months (under reduced internet for awhile). </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I BCC six other scientists who MIGHT POSSIBLY be in a position to start the first phase of IMPLEMENTING a new quantum AGI technology (QAGI) which would give us orders of magnitude better resolution in seeing what these NASA programs report, impressive as it now is. IN ADDITION to the four big networks used already by the Breakthrough institute, NASA may now be in a position to fund new work on seeing technosignatures better than anyone can at present. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I am bcc'ing the patent attorney who contacted me about converting my provisional patent on QAGI to a normal patent pending, which he promises will be filed by the deadline tomorrow. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I am hoping that Jerry will get support for his new workshop on AGI where we can get more concrete about this technology, how it fits our older technologies, and what the risks and opportunities are. I even sent two of you a more explicit workplan, beyond what was in the provisional, on the first stage of the work on the new type of quantum device which can enable all of these new capabilities, and more. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">By the way, I also bcc a world leader in astrobiology, who knows far more about xenobiology than anyone did in the PSW video. Maybe the new thrust might benefit from him as well?</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Best of luck to us all. We all need it a lot. And you all are crucial nodes in the network of survival.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><h1 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">3.<span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Initial Dialogue</h1><h3 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">3.1. Responding to a leader on the space community discussion list</h3><h4 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Thanks, Ajay, for more information on the meeting yesterday on what I call "challenge 7."</h4><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I also thank Brian Josephson for the link to the new Nature paper I need to study:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">That’s https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-022-01872-z</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 1:20 PM a.p.kothari astrox.com <a.p.kothari@astrox.com> wrote:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Paul,</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Thanks. It was a great talk by Zurbuchen (ex-associate administrator for Science directorate at NASA) and Drake (Daughter of Dr. Drake of Drake equation fame). I too was there yesterday (I am also a member of PSW).</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">In the audience was also the new Chief Technology Officer at NASA, Mr. AC Charania. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">We are in good hands with AC and Bhavya at NASA.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">As per Drake eqn, or Fermi paradox (the Q I wanted to ask), see here:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">https://www.fairobserver.com/culture/how-space-exploration-can-lead-us-to-our-true-destiny/</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I have added an (old) cc to David Brin, who was once active on a Lifeboat Foundation list we were both on. (I cc'ed lifeboatfundation@yahoo.com but that bounced, even though I received an email ccing them from lifeboat this very morning!) Why cc him? Well, he has a novel Existence which is must reading for anyone really serious about the Fermi paradox.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">FOR CHALLENGE 7, I have been advocating focused new research which would help us find out what we DOn'T know, as I said in my post. Brin reviews dozens of credible possible answers..</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">but mine is different from any of them! There are other possibilities, like the Bangalore paper I attached with my post.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Ajay himself has a special role to play in our network for CHALLENGE 6, as you could see quickly by comparing my list with what he posts now.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">In my view, the greatest single obstacle to economically sustainable human settlement beyond earth (challenge 6) is the pattern of biased filtered information (aka "legal corruption'') in Washington DC. That has been VERY visible to me here in this area, but has affected every major nation on earth. (For example, I wonder who really promoted and set off the spy balloons from China this week, undermining a key part of Xi's goals.) In DC, the "war" between Musk and SLS (snail versus clam) has blocked serious RD&D on advanced space and hypersonics technology in US, which some of us know very well (with extensive backup files). When Biden came to power,</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">and Kamala Harris was expected to play a stronger role, some IEEE people asked me who could lead NASA well enough to restore hope for challenge 6. I suggested Ajay, because his knowledge of hypersonics and honesty and independence were the best I could find. But Kamala depended a lot on political personnel filters, which have led to many, many problems in many areas. Ajay is still making important contributions... </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">==========================</div><h3 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">3.2 From the Millennium Project list: </h3><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Hi Paul - Great note on MilProj conversation about fear and hope. . . </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">but I have to tease you on this one:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">the old Disney cartoon of kangaroos burying their heads in the sand to avoid SEEING the tiger about to eat them. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Kangaroos do not do that . . . ostriches do! </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Thank you so much, …, both for your correction and for your tact.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">DoI have a duty to broadcast an apology? Well, not if I have had more wine at this moment than I did when I posted that! I could only make it worse.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">In truth, that stretch cartoon made a deep impression on me, and still lives.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I actually went to a place of wild, free tigers in India... where I was stalked by a big male one who looked me in the eye... but turned away in disgust when he smelled what Indian food had done to me... </div><h3 style="clear: both; text-align: left;">=========<br />3.3 To Peter Ward, From Personal Contact and IEEE Climate Discussion List</h3><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 6:15 PM Peter D Ward <argo@uw.edu> wrote:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">apologies to the mass mailing, but pretty sure this "learned" critique of the Rare Earth Hypothesis is nonsensical. But it is mercifully short and does address the major tenets of our Rare Earth Hypothesis</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsLmoiKugE</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Half my post about fears and hopes and seven challenges addressed "challenge 7" on my list (attached again) ,</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">and the discussion on youtube led by the recent director of science programs for NASA. It is an important challenge for science to try to learn how many OTTHER civilizations are out there beyond our solar system.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> As I listened to the NASA viewpoint, I did strongly feel they need to learn more about the work of Peter Ward, Hazen, Kirschvink and Kump on the origins of life, the nature of life, and astrobiology. But I did not give lots of details in what I sent you, because I wanted to emphasize the new opportunities we have to see the sky better.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">In fact, just yesterday my provisional patent offering orders of magnitude improvement in what we can actually SEE as we look up to the sky was converted to a regular patent pending.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">NASA still has a lot they need to catch up on from the work Peter Ward in many areas. I was surprised that they seemed unaware of his important book "Life As We Do not Know It," which I bought when I bought "Under A Green Sky." (At that time, 2009 or 2010, those two paperbacks plus a sudoku book barely got me to the $25 free shipping from Amazon.) That book had many insights, and reflected NASA support and efforts at the time.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">But was the Rare Earths theory true? I am skeptical of that part of the story, BUT SCIENCE DEMANDS THAT WE FIND OUT, NOT JUST ASSUME WE KNEW EVERYTHING IN ADVANCE.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">So far as I now know, the new paper in Nature which reports something like six technosignatures</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">(six planets with technological civilizations) observed already within maybe 10,000 light years of us is</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">a reasonable guess of the lower bound on who else is out there. But I only just heard the talk two days ago.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I have yet to study the actual Nature paper; I thank Brian Josephson again for sending me the link:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-022-01872-z</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">But even after I read it, I would guess we really need to address my challenge 7, by working harder to find out</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">many things, INCLUDING a better lower bound on how rare technological planets really are out there. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 6:15 PM Peter D Ward <argo@uw.edu> wrote:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">apologies to the mass mailing, but pretty sure this "learned" critique of the Rare Earth Hypothesis is nonsensical. But it is mercifully short and does address the major tenets of our Rare Earth Hypothesis</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsLmoiKugE</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">By the way, Jerry rightly worried that some folks may rightly get confused between my list of seven overarching challenges facing all of humanity for the coming century, versus the 15 challenges which have been used to organize the dialogues of the Millennium Project for many years, starting long before the time in 2009 when I first learned (from Peter) that human extinction by climate change was a serious possibility. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">In the spirit of my "spiritual father," John Von Neumann, I like to think of the largest goals as part of a "cardinal utility function U," which we must never forget if we want a decent chance of success. But in life, we often need to have larger longer-term goals and focused intermediate goals needed to actually get there. I see the 7 challenges as larger, more ultimate goals, and the 15 challenges as extremely important focused subgoals necessary to survival in the longer term, and to the maintenance of our society even now, even before existential threats arise. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">We can use focused strategic thinking, and lead a balanced sensitive sane human existence, on many levels.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">By now, I even use strategic mathematical optimization theory guide my muscles as I take a shower in the morning</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">http://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2023/01/some-tricks-for-living-longer-and.html .</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The 15 challenges are at a higher level than that, to be sure, but the 7 challenges are higher yet,</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">providing a larger framework.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">=========</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Early this Friday, I will lose access to this computer for at least three months. This post was a kind of culmination for me. I strongly hope you all will remember and advance all seven challenges, even as I sail into the setting sun. THUS I will post that culmination message, and these extensions, on a blog site which I hope is a BIT more permanent (and hope others do likewise).</div><h3 style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br />3.4. From <a href="https://londonfuturists.com/author/dw2cco/">David Wood </a></h3><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">David Wood (who is also working with Jerry and me and others on great challenge number one) commented:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">People following the points raised by Paul may be interested in two recent podcast episodes that dug more deeply into the question of the Fermi Paradox and estimates on the likelihood of technological planets:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">This one features David Brin, covers some of the ideas of his novel Existence, and draws the conclusion that while life may be widespread in the galaxy, life intelligent enough to launch spacecraft may be rare</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">This one features Anders Sandberg, and offers three different answers to the Fermi Paradox (one favoured by Anders, one favoured by me, and another favoured by podcast co-host Calum Chace).</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The episode featuring Anders Sandberg also reviews some implications of solutions to the Fermi Paradox for the (near!) future of humanity.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">// David W.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-15414496788920829932023-01-21T15:08:00.004-08:002023-01-21T15:08:50.150-08:00Some tricks for living longer and better with new science: science and shower<p> MANY people would use this title without really knowing, just to make money, but that is not my motive here. I just feel a mral duty to pass on a small part of what I have learned since I turned 70, 5 years ago, drawing on unique sources of infrmatin and science.</p><p>In 2019, after a bad fall, my GP said: "Good news and bad news. Good news: you missed dying by a millimeter, and the dds were 10 to 1 you wuld die instanly. Bad news: for the rest of your life you will be incapacitated. Your life has changed. But 90% of the folks your age have the same or worse; they just don't like to talk about it." And indeed, I also got advice from a doctor who has credentials to be number one in the US, who also led me to expect limited mobility ever after. And my eyes started o blur away, a few years after catarct surgery. I certainly had read the best research on long lifetime (like the great heroic efforts of Steve Jobs and such). But then I decided to look deeper.</p><p>NO, I did not just dedicate my life to longevity (even though we do have a big character poster given to me at the Jade Palace Hotel of Beijing proclaiming that idea, with an incredible history). I thought: "I decided the spend 5% of my time and energy to understand and avoid covid. One can do a lot in well-focused 5%, with resources. I will do the same with aging." </p><p>There are short-term and easy measures, and longer ones.</p><p>Today, I will post what I sent a friend on back problems, which SEEMED permanent but which I reversed (at leas for a few years??):</p><p>=======================================</p><p>A friend wrote to another friend cc me: 2C%20cold%20weather%20can,exiting%20the%20spine%2C%20causing%20pain.</p><p>If you are not feeling better by now, I'd recommend asking your doctor to give you MRI orders, so it can be determined what's causing the pain and how to address it, e.g., via PT. </p><p>Paul could give you a recommendation of the miracle therapist who treated him.</p><p>========================================</p><p>I replied:</p><p>At that time, I read SO much stuff. The links must be somewhere in my email and download files, but a quick search doesn't give them to me.</p><p>But: yes, exercise and glucosamine+condroiton (sulfonated, the usual odd formula). </p><p>Papers on back pain made it very clear it is DIVERSE. Very different for different people. Searching on bulging disk or herniated disc yields many serious sources.</p><p>MOST people either get better relatively soon on their own, but of the rest (like me), it is caused most often by a ruptured and/or slipped spinal disc. That is due to lack of the gel which usually fills the discs and keeps them right.</p><p>It is often misdiagnosed, and people often get suckered into paying for expensive and even damaging treatments even in reputable medical centers. Misdiagnosis because pinching a nerve in one place can cause pain elsewhere. That's part of neuroscience 101, for which I have lots of books. </p><p>The glucosamine plus chondroiton, UNLIKE other good joint compounds, can replenish the gel, but repositioning the disc is still a key issue. It took me years to sort out which exercises work. I don't really know the exact formula from exercise inputs to outcomes, but I will never forget the final step when it was suddenly good enough to restore me.</p><p>The final step was when I came to Lisa Huff, in Select Physical Therapy at 611 S Carlin Springs Road. In December, I was overwhelmed by guilt, that I had not done enough to thank her. So we stopped by her office, to try to find out how at least to send her $1000at least, as a kind of Christmas present and belated thank you. But she no longer works for that company. They said she moved to California, and they would try to get us an address, but that never happened.</p><p>I DO have the exercise files she sent, but those look like standard company files (added into the company web site). It was what she showed and explained in person that really worked.</p><p>I would be happy to say more, but here is a brief version.</p><p>I mostly just use walking and exercise in the shower to stay normal. BOTH are serious arts, much better if done right. </p><p>In the shower, there is some similarity to the ancient "cat cow" ideas Luda told me about years ago. But under hot water.. the (cat?) pushes solar plexus forward, head and feet back, to extremes, creating an arch from head to toe, held for 45 seconds.(That is how long I grind coffee, and can measure precisely without a watch, but more is fine.) That IS the most important by far. But also the (cow?) arches forward, doing curvature in the opposite direction, hands over legs. Rubbing up and down by the sides of the spine also helps a lot.</p><p>In my routine, I also stretch the leg of one side over the opposite knee, and stretch and wash a lot. (45 second is good for muscle exercise but also for soap, and I like to get both benefits at once, ALONG WITH tai qi or qi gong feelings and such). </p><p>Hope this helps.</p><p>Best regards, Paul</p><p>P.S. I also avoid general anesthesia with horror when there is any choice at all, now that I have seen some of the research and seen what happens to a lot of people. </p><p>==========</p><p><br /></p><p>I am sorry I did not keep the link (at least on this laptop), but this morning I see a key part of the information:</p><p> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17145758/</p><p>From many scientific sources I learned that the specific TYPE of (sulfated) glucosamine chondroitin that they sell in big bottles at Costco really works. That, plus well-designed exercise routines, brought me back to total normalcy. </p><p>The real problem is that our life demands figuring out the details of the science, just like my old job at NSF.</p><p>It is not easy. Most supplement sellers do not understand the science even of their own product!</p><p>(That is true of climate solutions as well!) But the science is there.</p><p>[From 2019 to then, tai qi and qi gong exercises also kept me alive under stressful conditions, like climbing Mount Fuji through rubble after a typhoon https://photos.app.goo.gl/rwkhfdcUN74jGrvx9 . That is a key PART of what my new shower ritual includes. Feel the qi, feel the soap, feel the hot water, and feel the stretch.] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>.....</p><p><br /></p>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-25391274660536593292022-12-25T08:23:00.007-08:002022-12-25T08:57:22.466-08:00Coci Beach 2022: Our Truest Christian/Buddhist Christmas Ceremony, and hard science to look for qi<h1 style="text-align: left;">Jesus: The Big Picture </h1><div> Who was the real person Jesus? </div><div><br /></div><div>Many of us believe that <a href="https://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2022/11/afterlife-and-reincarnation-neither-yes.html">part or all of his soul still lives on</a> -- but who is he, really, and how could we connect in the best highest way we can with him? How can we see through the fog of partial reflected images (a lot like some Escher prints) to the truest, living person still there? (Many of those funhouse reflections of him are truly ugly.) On this day (December 25), it is natural that we meditate deeply and connect as best we can to the true living Jesus. This meditation is an important part of our connection to the rest of humanity today as well. </div><div><br /></div><div>The full Jesus story I have seen is one of a human living on this earth, who worked hard to elevate his own spirit, and connect with “our Father in Heaven.” </div><div><br /></div><div>The Chinese have stories of many “risen gods”, like Ehrlang, who grew spiritually enough that they live on in the “City of Heaven“. We would be fools not to learn all we can from him, and build a better connection, even as we do the same with Buddha and their entire circle, which itself connects higher and further.
The spirit of Jesus also has his avatars, living on this earth, capable of “partial gating” to him. And his reflections in the realm of spirit also include the great archetype “Baby Jesus”, whom we should never neglect either, but today I will not make that connection in this post.</div><div><br /></div><div> Jesus warned us that many would come in his name, and try to sell us horrible, destructive distortions of him. In truth, while he COULD see into details and precision far beyond most of us on earth, he could also see that the evolution of human souls is a complex business, taking time to make real. When they asked why he spoke so much in parables, he said that there would come a time in the future when we could be more explicit, but it would take time for us to get that far. </div><div><br /></div><h1>My most spiritual Christmas Experience This Year </h1><h3 style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Obstacles on the Path</span></h3><div> My truest, most authentic spiritual Christmas ceremony this year was in the Caribbean, on December 19 at Coci Beach on St. Thomas. See the <a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/CR5NuNu7UPXbaVfj7">cover photo of our Christmas Caribbean album</a> for one part, one aspect of that great experience. </div><div><br /></div><div> Like many great events, it was preceded by ups and downs which were very discouraging, which required me to remember how many things require time and patience and detours to attain. That is also a very important spiritual principle, related to the <a href="https://drpauljohn.blogspot.com/2022/10/multiverse-versus-multithread-new-view.html">multithread nature of our existence </a>even in the living spiritual worlds we are part of, demanding an understanding of how time and mind actually work. </div><div><br /></div><div> On the Holland America cruise arranged by my wife Ludmila, we were supposed to visit St. John’s that day. Just once, we visited St. Johns before, to the ocean natural heritage site which had snorkeling far better than any other place I had ever seen, even in the Pacific. That too was a spiritual experience, where for one hour I could just let go and fully immerse myself in the very rich variety of life. Connecting so deeply with life and nature, I later studied the new science and learned a lot more. I became a “sea creature" so completely that I needed about a half hour to recover from sea sickness when I emerged to the beach and stood on land. But this time, HAL cancelled all the tours to go there, because risky storms endangered the schedule of return. Ludmila found a way we could get there anyway, but because I had brought the wrong passport by accident, a delay in reaching the ship would have endangered my being allowed back in the US in time for dentist appointment the next day. These ducks really did line up to say “No St. Johns this time. "</div><div><br /></div><div> The tour/travel speaker on HAL described St. Thomas.. in a way which didn't sound promising. There are historic sites we had visited before, not much interest that day. The best they knew was Coci beach and Coral World. But when we were at Coci beach in a past year, all we saw were a few very small fish. Coral World was a small expensive museum of no real interest. So we took a local group taxi to Coci beach, and I did carry a snorkel in my back pack, but did not expect to use it, especially after our son complained about water leakage and I did not have floats or such.</div><div><br /></div><h3 style="text-align: left;"> Manifestation of The Spirit </h3><div><br /></div><div> BUT THEN…
After a brief basic physical exercise (underwater swimming), I walked up to my neck in the warm clear water. I found a clear spot with no other people or even small fish around.</div><div><br /></div><div> I decided to try to repeat a new five-movement qi gong exercise we were taught on the ship on the two previous days: “opening the heart.” (I do not see it on the web, but https://qigong.com/the-basic-movements-of-qigong-exercises/ may be similar). I had seen simpler qi gong exercises before, as introductions to tai qi classes which I found very useful to physical health and spiritual connection both, but this was the first time I had seen five whole movements including this one. </div><div><br /></div><div><b>And then, when I tried “opening the heart”.. immediately a giant school of moderate to large fish (like the moderate fish in the picture) swam right at me, flanked by Barracuda to the left and right.</b> </div><div><br /></div><div> After I returned to the beach, Ludmila persuaded me to try to use MY snorkel mask (which did not leak) and go to deeper water, past the rocks on our right, into the large cove between the rocks and the floating buoys blocking access to Coral World.
<b>It was like St. John’s all over again! </b>Not as many types of coral, but many enough, like fans, brain coral, bushy things, and others. AND… a setting where I could just let go,
for two rounds of about 10/15 minutes each, and enter a true Buddhist-like state of
no being”, really merging my being with nature, more even than I could at St. John’s. </div><div><br /></div><h3 style="text-align: left;"> Postscript on Science to Detect Qi </h3><div><br /></div><div> On the discussion list of Yeshua ben-David (who works hard to channel the spirits of love and peace, and uses the water more than I do in more ways), I have discussed the serious science to TEST my hypothesis that we might actually be able to SEE the “dark matter” force fields behind qi, right here in our solar system:</div><div><br /></div><div>This past week I owe great thanks to my wife for encouraging me to probe the literature more deeply on what needs to be done. <b>A crucial starting point may be found in:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm9928
Axion dark matter: How to see it? | Science Advances </b></div><div><br /></div><div> I apologize for the fuzzy enthusiasm I echoed months ago about tabletop axial Higgs detectors. </div><div><br /></div><div><b>The new literature (including papers which cite this one and its companion paper) goes much further, and has huge implications for those of us who care about the relation between science and spirit, or about the future internet and its impacts on the human soul.</b></div><div><br /></div><div>
It also has huge implications for those who want to cling like fundamentalists to the good old version of the standard model of physics. Anyone serious about either of these viewpoints needs to study this definitive new paper. </div><div><br /></div><div> I have expressed uncertainty and ignorance about many, many things. When my wife asks what I am most certain of, in these realms, different from conventional wisdom, I point to two things: </div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b> (1) That we humans (and some others) are deeply connected as parts of a larger living system, our local noosphere, which is made up more of dark matter than of ordinary familiar "QED matter". </b></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b> (2) That qi is real, and essential in many ways to our future, also based on dark matter. </b></div><div><br /></div><div> If I am right, SEEING the distribution and flow of dark matter here in our solar system is incredibly important. If I am wrong, the experiments should be done to disillusion folks like me, and find a better foundation. <b>Narcissistic drunks play word games to decide such issues, but science -- like sanity and honesty --demands we try to find out</b>. </div><div><br /></div><div> <b>If I am right, such detectors and detector systems based on them could be integrated into new internet and AGI design, to provide the kind of feedback we need to make the new internet a truly people-centered and environment-friendly system, unlike the scary alternative possibilities we see in movies like Matrix Resurrections.
One impressive new finding in this paper is the report that dark matter is much more dense in our galaxy than in intergalactic space. What of our solar system itself? Let us find out.
Is interaction with dark matter as difficult as they say, or is it like detecting radio signals which is much easier when we have a system designed or evolved to have the special kind of structure needed? Let us first get data to see what it looks like!</b></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-38583269322458283872022-12-05T13:55:00.003-08:002022-12-05T14:01:02.692-08:00Climate Policy: How to get much better results on climate AND energy security than EU or US do today<p>Sent to a friend involved in US policy making:</p><p> </p><p><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; font-size: large;">The key message was that the news from COP27 made me fear for our lives, but AT THE SAME TIME an IEEE international conference based in Nanjing (ICCSI) made me much more hopeful than COP27 did. Thanks to the book project which Kumar asked me to start up (still in process, with LOTS of backup material beyond what is at</span><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; font-size: large;"> </span><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://build-a-world.org&source=gmail&ust=1670362445054000&usg=AOvVaw0m26YCVpdITGkLRgk-Fcge" href="http://build-a-world.org/" style="color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;" target="_blank">build-a-world.org</a><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; font-size: large;">), we have an organized collection of exciting new options for energy and climate policy, which would be of huge value to the world economy and to national security within ten years, which neither EU nor Biden nor Biden's advisors know about. </span></p><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">The exciting message from Nanjing was that new pathways are opening up to connect us, and IEEE in general, to the highest levels of decision-making. The high leader behind that ICCSI conference now has a new position, right in Tian an Men square, and may be willing to create a pathway to implement John Kerry's proposal for a climate survival division (specializing in the extinction threat, which is far more real and close than most people even imagine) in the Security Council. That is what I have given priority to this week.</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">But -- at a minimum, IEEE could endorse what John Kerry and Guterres (UN SEc Gen) proposed very publicly just a few years ago. That proposal mainly died because bureaucrats in New York redirected Guterres and Kerry, but the redirections did not work as well as they hoped. Interest from Xi could radically reverse the situation. </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">IEEE could even ask for a better pathway of climate information, real science and real IEEE-connected technologies, to support the new climate division. </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Does IEEEUSA have a special role in bridging the all-important gap between what the most advanced and relevant IEEE societies know, and the policy level (AND investors)? </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Truly efficient and intelligent power grids are PART of the "making electricity" priority in the draft book, one of the two parts for which we have the most information and new but proven options (ranging from important tools ready to go now, to areas where RD&D could be much more transformative than anything I see now, including the best proposals to NSF which I have had some occasion to review this past year ). But the transportation part is also strong. China is doing much more for world climate already than all of the COP actions taken together, because of its actions to support electric cars, but China and the US could do much better yet if we learn the right ways to cooperate (with mutual protections of course). </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">In truth, my ability to wordsmith in THIS political environment ... should I even try? </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">BEFORE any of us try... is a 50% climate section on the table as a possibility?</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">CONCRETELY... </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">This would mean, ROUGHLY...</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">1. More rapid support, development, RD&D, deployment of what Kumar has championed, DSOPF, dynamic stochastic optimal power flow, AND market redesign to better support its use and its benefits, as in the draft chapter by Momoh and proposals by O'Neill and Ilic.</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">2. Liberating DOE from the entrails of the oil company hydrogen barriers, and returning more support advanced <span class="il">Brayton</span> for use both in space and in power tower solar farms (not requiring chips from China). That should include a major new US export push to support Heliogen and GE in that specific area, and ALSO accelerated RD&D for the more advanced (efficient, lower $/kwh) next generation of <span class="il">Brayton</span>. </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">3. Strengthened partnership with Chile to push and enhance thermal storage, to be integrated into advanced power tower solar farms and DSOPF to control them all.</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">4. OK, New focused (and well-informed, well-grounded) R&D on quantum RLADP (the key to quantum DSOPF), which allows efficiency and protection from unexpected disturbances in a more comprehensive DSOPF ranging all the way from markets to semiconductors in the power electronics. his is a new technology which I presented in my plenary award talk at WCCI2022 (abstract attached).</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">5. Similar opportunities for cars, consistent with the old IEEEUSA position (which I posted at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/oil.htm&source=gmail&ust=1670362445054000&usg=AOvVaw2NMuRaTV5hO7fyKHmZ0kA3" href="http://werbos.com/oil.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/oil.htm</a>), accelerating BOTH rechargeable lithium-air batteries USING THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, and alternate net-zero liquids, and markets designed to better advance both where they benefit consumers. DSOPF can play a crucial role in the recharge aspect. In truth, Sadoway may also know of other big breakthrough options, but the present system is shutting out all of them.</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><div class="gmail_default">...</div></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">Best regards,</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"> Paul </div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><div class="gmail_default">==============================<wbr></wbr>============================</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">-- As I think it over, I should have said more about why these new technologies (US and IEEE) are so important and urgent, even if they are not visible in any US or EU climate policy yet. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">I have tracked EU climate policy very closely for a few years now, watching mainly France24 and Deutsche Welle some, almost never CNN. Greens (most powerful party in Germany) convinced Von Der Leyen EU must go all renewable ASAP, not only for climate but in face of serious energy security issues there. But then industry -- both electric and fossil -- convinced her that the REAL cost of renewables is many times higher than the generating costs the advocates have old her about, because of backups, intermittency, time of day issues. They plan a huge expansion in expensive LNG now because the renewables people are working hard to sell her DO have more than double cost growth, past generation, because of the time of day and intermittency (and raw transmission investment rules) issues.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">The new technologies and market designs I mentioned get rid of at least half the cost to the user! Time of day is no problem when the specific new type of storage, thermal storage hooked up to <span class="il">Brayton</span> and intelligent control, is BETTER than baseload 24/7 for load following! </div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default">More technical detail (in draft but more advanced that any other sources now abvailable) may be found at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1acZRpjyjCLoQuqzJef74e0cmHeyoKJdr?usp=sharing</div><div class="gmail_default"><br /></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-89794041679597858032022-11-22T10:01:00.001-08:002022-11-22T10:04:30.008-08:00Parahippocampus: a key to empathy and PSI?<p>Any serious neuroscientist should know that humans (and at a lesser level monkeys) possess "mirror neurons." Karl Pribram once told me the story of a neuroscientist recording from the brain of a monkey; he was startled when the monkey responded to the scientist reaching for nuts in the same cells which had fired when the monkey himself was reaching for them! (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19760408/). </p><p><br /></p><p>But I was astounded when the last science fiction novel I read, https://www.davidzindell.com/the-idiot-gods/, included a thorough review of the brain of the orca, with scientific citations! (The striped dolphin may be even better, I later found.) That brain -- and SOME humans -- possesses a unique structure, a parahippocampus and paralimbic region, which may be of very fundamental importance in understanding the foundations of the highest level of empathy, which is important not only to ethics and values but to intelligence and understanding as well.</p><p>By the way, empathy and HUMAN values are discussed in an advanced way in Pribram's book:</p><p>https://openlibrary.org/books/OL7937292M/Brain_and_Values</p><p>Here is part of a recent email discussion on that (thanks to Yeshua Ben David's list);</p><p><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-size: small;">On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 5:12 PM Nancy du Tertre <</span><a href="mailto:nancy@dutertre.com" style="background-color: white; color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;" target="_blank">nancy@dutertre.com</a><span face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-size: small;">> wrote:</span></p><span class="im" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #500050; font-size: small;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto">Paul,<div><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><b>“<span class="il">Parahippocampus</span> and paralimbic lobes may be important to PSI!!”</b></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></span></div><div>Why? Spatial memory ? Emotion identification? Motivation or goals? </div><div><br /></div><div>Just curious.</div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div></span><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">No need to apologize for such an important issue. One advantage of the word "paralimbic" is that it's a great search term, which could get you to RELATED things I have posted here before, which connect to the basic issues. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">WHEN noosphere (soul) tries to connect, even in two-way connection, it depends on how good the possible connection is, for rich "conscious" thought. Noosphere can even connect strongly to just plain water, but not to exchange ideas much. Much better to mammal brains than reptile, because mammal brains have structures intended to represent certain kinds of ideas, actions and such. ALL MAMMALS possess a kind of "verb-object" memory, supporting basal ganglia, which represent "VERBS" (action schemata or "options" or "skills") AND OBJECTS.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">(When a mouse open a door, the option is "open" AND "door.") With the mouse, the subject of the sentence is implicitly just "I", memory of what IT did.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">A key hypothesis: some mammal brains with strong <span class="il">parahippocampus</span> can encode actor-verb-object memory to a high refined degree,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">allowing them to learn from memory of what OTHER actors experienced. All mammals with mirror neurons have SOME of that capability. Human language skills are rooted in having more of the required machinery than monkeys do, BUT COULD IT BE THAT ORCAS HAVE MORE, and that there is diversity even among humans? Brain machinery which strengthens the mirror neuron, empathy capability gives the noosphere a chance to expand the capability of hybrid organisms (body/soul) like us to develop capabilities like "assumption", the PSI of seeing through the eyes of others.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">In fact -- in 1963-64, I focused deeply on the Upanishads in the famous Hume collection. I was totally against belief in PSI until 1967, but the abstract THEORETICAL concepts of seeing through many eyes made a deep impression on me, and might have been a major factor in preparing me for the experiences which stunned me in 1967 and 1972. (Of course, the connection between my abstract thinking and full first person experience, cultivated by "sanity", helpd make that work.) I cc a former colleague who understood that aspect of Vedas more than</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">anything I have seen on these discussion lists. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Best regards, Paul </div><div class="yj6qo ajU" style="cursor: pointer; margin: 2px 0px 0px; outline: none; padding: 10px 0px; width: 22px;"><div aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Show trimmed content" class="ajR" data-tooltip="Show trimmed content" id=":2gh" role="button" style="background-color: #e8eaed; border-radius: 5.5px; border: none; clear: both; line-height: 6px; outline: none; position: relative; width: 24px;" tabindex="0"><img class="ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: 20px; background: url("https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system_gm/1x/more_horiz_black_20dp.png") center center / 20px no-repeat; height: 11px; opacity: 0.71; width: 24px;" /></div></div></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-87014877487574526782022-11-22T06:00:00.000-08:002022-11-22T06:00:02.785-08:00Afterlife and reincarnation -- neither yes nor no but the middle way<p> <span style="font-size: large;">We have had many debates all over the earth about whether reincarnation is real or not. </span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Human brains have a natural tendency (temptation? illusion?) biasing them towards extreme, yes or no, black or white positions. In fact, whole books have been written in psychology about "tolerance of cognitive dissonance." Some of us (like me) are actually born with a strong natural tendency to reject dissonance; for us, the path of sanity demands we learn to control and discipline that tendency.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">So could it be that the reality of afterlife and reincarnation is NOT a matter of yes and no, but in-between?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">That is what all the evidence I see supports -- including third person, first person AND second person!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Re second person: if any of you really wonders whether you know the truth of this yet, with any doubt, I urge you to read the light easy but serious novel by Jane Roberts: <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://archive.org/details/oversoulseventri0000robe&source=gmail&ust=1669211665821000&usg=AOvVaw2sRa0RcHx1bzLkUHlwnIF3" href="https://archive.org/details/oversoulseventri0000robe" mcafee_aps="true" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://archive.org/<wbr></wbr>details/<wbr></wbr>oversoulseventri0000robe</a> . It depicts an INTERMEDIATE position. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">OR: have you ever thought deeply about "avatars" or "assumption" (reflected in that novel, and in many other places)? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Could it be that ONE soul, located in the "astral plane" or in our local noosphere, STAYS there (for a long time), BUT CONNECTS to a living human brain or to another soul connected to that brain? I call this kind of relationship "partial gating."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Partial gating has a strong, deep, almost unavoidable role in the mathematics of intelligent systems. (I bcc a researcher who appreciates the importance of symmetry groups and partial symmetry groups in the mathematics of intelligent systems.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">But it is also something I have seen often, and see every day. I am also bcc'ing a leading Western mystic who talks about a level of consciousness which works in that way. Partial gating is also visible in the later work of Escher, who actually studied symmetry groups. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">"Assumption" is a state where you see through the eyes of another person... TO SOME DEGREE. But you do not take over that other person, or vice-versa. It is basically just an extension of EMPATHY, which is supported by mirror neurons and by parahippocampus to some degree in SOME mammals. Beyond the capability for assumption or empathy is the capability to see through SEVERAL or MANY eyes at once. (Yeshua and I long ago discussed a TV video series Sense8 which depicts this.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I bcc a vedantic mystic and physicist who has demonstrated understanding of this aspect of the Upanishads much more than most of the modern schools of sanskrit words do.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I now tend to believe that my own phenomenal learning of mathematics when I was young was due in great part to my instinctive ability to see what a mathematics teacher or science author was actually thinking and seeing... at an age when I strongly disbelieved (intellectually) in any form of PSI. Beliefs in the ego (the part of the mind which performs symbolic reasoning) and actual beliefs in the full non verbal part of the brain and of the soul are usually NOT well integrated until one matures a bit, until one learns a level of sanity or zhengqi. (See <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41470-019-00038-z&source=gmail&ust=1669211665822000&usg=AOvVaw3gFkAUuXQciqQgSko87ThX" href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41470-019-00038-z" mcafee_aps="true" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://link.springer.<wbr></wbr>com/article/10.1007/s41470-<wbr></wbr>019-00038-z</a>.) Many people have a deep belief in soul, combined with "color blind" narcissism and solipsism so severe that they become destructive religious fanatics, while others (like me when young or myPhD adviser Karl Deutsch) disbelieve while exercising esoteric skills to an extreme degree. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Beyond the "Sense8" level of PSI is partial gating to our entire noosphere. That is the state which I think of when I hear the words "cosmic consciousness". IF MORE US humans gate better with our local noosphere (as in the talk I gave last week to Nanjing, at the IEEE ISSDC international conference), it will improve our chances to survive as a species. The spiritual feedback or "qi" which energizes our soul reflects ... what Freud called "psychic energy""... in the noosphere, what drives adaptation and learning of all higher parts of any brain, mammal or noosphere (or well-designed AGI). IF we achieve a high level of zhenqi, we CARE about the life of this solar system,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">not only humans but other life as well. We do not need personal vested interests to CARE.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">HOWEVER: few people now seem to care as much as I do. When I see COP26 and US climate policy diverting efforts to prevent total extinction of humanity, to serve vested interests either corporate or ideological or ethnic, I worry deeply what will happen to us. Will all of our noosphere end up like a little fish in a big aquarium, most of which die before reaching adulthood? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Most people DO care what may happen to them after death of the good old mundane body. That is why most ancient cultures have strong rituals of some kind to try to preserve connections to their ancestors and other friendly dead folks. They believe that the memories -- both factual and alive or episodic -- of their ancestors can raise the collective intelligence of their people and increase their chances of survival. WHAT IF THEY ARE RIGHT? What if the more rigid, black and white beliefs we see in more organized bureaucratic empires (biased by personal interests of people in power) are abominations and false, like what Constantine and Justinian did to Christianity? (I have SEEN that history in Ravenna! And Constantinople.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">And so... what happens to YOU after YOUR death may depend a lot BOTH ON how you connect your soul within the larger noosphere which all us humans are part of (no matter how far we may see into the galaxy and beyond, as some of us do,d eveloping more advanced telescopes and PSI both) AND ON the health of the entire noosphere itself.Those of us who are soon to BECOME ancestors will have our fates shaped a lot by HOW WELL those who stay alive on earth CONNECT to the noosphere as a whole and ENERGIZE and FOCUS its own integrity. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">That is one of the reasons why I was so excited "in" Nanking this week to see hope we might strengthen this connection!!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Additional sources on this -- the Disney animation "Coco", depicting well what happens to PART and SOME of soul after death (the ancient "day of the dead" system), and Gurdjieff's <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DuYhv0O0gUTk&source=gmail&ust=1669211665822000&usg=AOvVaw1wVY1-r9TujbGFJuDxPhAc" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYhv0O0gUTk" mcafee_aps="true" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.<wbr></wbr>youtube.com/watch?v=<wbr></wbr>uYhv0O0gUTk</a>. And we have spoken to a major shaman by the shores of lake Titicacca, and to teachers of Sufism and refuges from Kurdistan who reported oppression by new authorities in Turkey exactly like Justinian. </div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" /></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-38809721243225263072022-10-22T06:23:00.009-07:002022-11-24T16:34:43.027-08:00Multiverse versus multithread -- a new view of how our universe works<p><span style="font-size: medium;"> <span>For SOME people, the most solid way to think about life in our cosmos is a kind of </span><span>"dual aspect monism" -- more like the classic ideas of Ramanuja than some of the ideas </span><span>floated around recently. The monism is about the underlying laws of our universe, which we can SEE from two most important angles, the angles of our observation and thinking and the angle of our models of how those laws work. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span>====================</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span>This blog post will focus on what we now know about those underlying laws. I will start with a more intuitive explanation and conclude with some paragraphs I wrote for leading physicists who demand brevity but precision: </span></span></p><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>TODAY, the most advanced vision of the underlying laws available to our mainstream is what I call "Everett Wheeler Deutsch," EWD,</b> </span><span style="font-size: large;">which holds that the state of our cosmos or multiverse at any time t, is specified by a wave function, psi(X,t), where t is time and X is a point in Fock space. Much of the new progress possible in physics NOW </span><span style="font-size: large;">is about fixing how measurement is modeled in that framework (to better explain experiments in quantum optics) and to better develop the new technologies which it allows. (Those include Quantum AGI, for example, as defined in my WCCI2022 plenary.) </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><span style="font-size: large;">BUT: BEYOND multiverse physics, I claim that the next big step up is to what I call "multithread physics."</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> When I try to make sense of what is really going on around us, I rely more on multithread physics as a foundation, for the underlying laws. </span><span>This morning, I was reminded that my past efforts to explain this (</span><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.werbos.com/mind_brain_soul.htm&source=gmail&ust=1666529755042000&usg=AOvVaw1OfEkHIy6mPL8-wWZ7wwvA" href="https://www.werbos.com/mind_brain_soul.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.werbos.com/mind_<wbr></wbr>brain_soul.htm</a><span>) were not as clear, direct and simple as people would need to really understand. So I will try.</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span><br /></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span>First of all, though, I will define multithread physics here in a way which is CONSISTENT with a particular VERSION of multiverse physics. I will begin with an intuitive explanation I put together yesterday, and end with a more precise actionable proposal which I presented to some important thought leaders in this area.</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span>===================</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">"Multithread physics" is not about the underlying laws or axioms, exactly. Long ago, I proposed Hard Core Einsteinian Realism (HCER), which assumes that our universe is governed by the extension of Lagrange-Euler equations to curved Minkowski space,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">given in Moshe Carmeli's book Classical Fields. (That is the obvious generalization of John Wheeler's "Already Unified Field Theory," HIS Nobel prize.) SO WHAT IS NEW SINCE CARMELI, SINCE CLASSICAL FIELDS?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><span style="font-size: large;">What is new is what we do next -- the next step -- in trying to figure out WHAT THOSE DYNAMICAL EQUATIONS ARE ACTUALLY TELLING us about the universe whose behavior they describe.</span></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Moving up to multithread physics is the NEXT STEP in an important intellectual progression which has already started. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Many years ago, many would say "ODE models are old hat. ODE are not interesting. To talk about ODE models offers you nothing new." BUT THEN CAME CHAOS THEORY. The essence of chaos theory (developed more or less by York and Ott of UMCP and popularized by Gleick) was understanding that ODE are NOT so boring or limited as people had believed. It was a wrenching change in mathematics, and a heresy for many years. NOW it has been assimilated into a modern view of nonlinear systems dynamics, but it was crucial to learn that the old view of ODE and of time-series was wrong. This already has implications for "AI" technology (<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/Erdos.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1666529755042000&usg=AOvVaw2zQx0fGvPJ6UzFcLIF-Eit" href="http://werbos.com/Erdos.pdf" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/Erdos.pdf</a>), which today's technology has not YET fully assimilated.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><span style="font-size: large;">MULTITHREAD PHYSICS extends this kind of wrenching change in viewpoint from ODE to PDE. Just as ODE are NOT so boring or limited as people once thought, the same is true of PDE, times ten.</span></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">For now, I would define multithread physics as the viewpoint embedded in</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><h3 style="border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 100px 2px 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #1a0dab; font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: middle;">[DOC]</span> <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Paul-Werbos/publication/327164414_WerbosFleury_v2/links/5b7de4bea6fdcc5f8b5de239/WerbosFleury-v2&source=gmail&ust=1666529755042000&usg=AOvVaw0RVNJRJxyb1559DOxYtSpU" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Paul-Werbos/publication/327164414_WerbosFleury_v2/links/5b7de4bea6fdcc5f8b5de239/WerbosFleury-v2" id="m_6290504417129076884gmail-W3zKVz1fUwcJ" style="color: #d14836; outline: none;" target="_blank">Time-Symmetric Quantum Measurement: Theoretical Formulation and Status of Experiments</a></h3></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">WHEN that paper (and the earlier ones it builds on) is fully understood.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Even I, who originated that viewpoint, needed years to fully grasp what it tells us. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">In a way, multithread physics is about how we can understand the existence of macroscopic Schrodinger cats in real empirical life in a universe which is just a curved Minkowski space. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I BEGAN to understand it in 2014, when I developed the cMRFp extension of my first constructive realist model of what happens in Bell experiments <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1309/1309.6168.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1666529755042000&usg=AOvVaw15hNHYtrc26cbg07BO25aN" href="https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1309/1309.6168.pdf" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://arxiv.org/<wbr></wbr>ftp/arxiv/papers/1309/1309.<wbr></wbr>6168.pdf</a>. cMRFp -- a CONTINUOUS time model of what happens to a "photon" when it passes through a polarizer. The math only works (and is well grounded) when my practical empirical model of what the photon does gives the photon only three "choices" of change at any time t: (1) it can be ABSORBED into the polarizer, disappearing; (2) it flips to being 90 degrees out from what the polarizer "wants", like a hippie rebel; (3) it can "stick out its tongue," like the comedian in an old British comedy</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedazzled_(1967_film)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">AT THAT TIME, I was in a horribly polarizing environment at NSF. (I deeply hope that the new head of OSTP whom I saw yesterday on Zoom will not take orders from biased stakeholders in Congress/industry like what remade NSF back then!) Should I let myself be absorbed by a focused political movement (whom I sometimes call "the Borg" when naming names is problematic), causing bad things, or become a hippie rebel? Suddenly I wished I had as much real first-person power as that little photon, to stick out my tongue and remake the situation. WHY should a photon (a pattern, not a real particle even) have more degrees of free will than I do?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">And then I realized... these "scenarios" in the MRF models of life governed by QED do apply to OUR mundane form of life, which is also governed by QED. Just as "parallel copies" of a photon, in different states, appear in any correct MRF description of quantum optics experiments, parallel copies of US also appear in the scenarios which COMBINE to govern the outcomes of our lives. And yes, the extension to all force fields is straightforward as well. The lattice diagram of the web of scenarios which describe evolutions of "photons" in parallel ALSO apply to us humans. When I speak of a "THREAD" I am speaking of the generalization of a line you see in such a diagram, representing "A STATE" of a photon or a human or a planet.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I was really astounded months ago when I was walking with my wife to a small neighborhood library, and saw a new science fiction trilogy by Brandt called "Origins: Threaders" which seemed to be a kind of echo of exactly this new viewpoint! It even included some specific technologies buried in my computer files, which I do not talk about because people do not seem ready for that next step (even in QED land!). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Here are some corollary predictions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">FIRST -- exactly as in multiverse physics, we fully face up to the very solid empirical facts that macroscopic Schrodinger cats DO exist, and that the underlying physics DOES allow parallel copies of ourselves and our planet to exist. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">SECOND -- exactly as in true EWD physics, BUT NOT the popular misunderstanding of it, there may exist "virtual" states or threads, whose probability strength VARIES WITH TIME. Just like the cMRFp model. Personally, I do tend to believe that Trump WAS re-inaugurated in 2020, but that that "universe" or thread has substantially eroded with time, like in that old British comedy. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">THIRD -- our first person local awareness, an attribute of ONE of our states -- is very much like the "shadows on the cave wall" of Plato. Are we real or are we not, if WE are in a virtual state or thread, which in future will be condensed into a different state?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The lattice diagrams in Werbos and Fleury do look like that, and that is our reality, if we understand it better now. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Years ago, in <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://werbos.com/NATO_terrorism.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1666529755042000&usg=AOvVaw02U_3cD5dkcajkjhY7HqVC" href="http://werbos.com/NATO_terrorism.pdf" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">werbos.com/NATO_terrorism.pdf</a>, I described the ethical and emotional implications we may experience if we see that we MAY be in such a virtual state -- and may even CHOOSE to "stick out our tongue" and unmake the state we are now in, at the mundane level of our existence. That is a test of "second order sanity" (as defined in https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41470-019-00038-z) !! </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">FOURTH -- states are a bit different for QAGI, which EMBED parallelism into their consciousness. That calls for a kind of third-order sanity, integrating our QAGI consciousness into our lives. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">No, HCER is not a boring or trivial reality!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">==============================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">=================================</div><div class="gmail_default"><b><span style="font-size: large;">But for now, the actionable proposal is not HCER but the next big step in fundamental physics:</span></b></div><div class="gmail_default"><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Years ago, in the last Princeton conference we attended organized by Marlan Scully, a Princeton professor (Cohen?) asked whether we could base physics on a foundation exactly like standard Feynman diagrams, except that we use probabilities instead of probability amplitudes. This morning I am reminded that the "multithread physics" I wrote about yesterday is exactly an implementation of that same core idea, with only one addition -- that the models used for macroscopic objects like polarizer should be time symmetric (CPT symmetry is enough). </div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br /><div dir="auto">The MRF models I have used in analyzing experiments in quantum optics are all of that type. The hypothesis now is that all of quantum optics fits this manifestation of the idea which Cohen proposed. One of my papers for Leon Chua actually did present it that way.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Is this kind of multithread physics based on a new kind of Feynman diagram a viable foundation for ALL of physics, not just QED? For now, showing it for QED is a large and important task, with implications even for technology, and I should not distract with further questions beyond the scope of this hypothesis. But I should note that my paper "Bell's.. Not just interpretation" in IJTP circa 2009 discussed how time symmetric models of passive objects in experiments emerge in a variety of theories of the underlying physics, including even Everett wheeler with a new measurement model. </div></div></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></b></div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"> </div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-8268876811697039972022-10-17T08:17:00.005-07:002022-10-21T08:50:01.851-07:00Thanking UN for its important recent science summits aiming at a massive upgrade of UNSent to the organizer of these summits:
Thank you so much, Declan, for your fantastic creation of science summits and of a bold new vision needed to give reality to the highest goals of Guterres in trying to keep our species alive. As you said many times, we need a much stronger pathway for information from the very best and most advanced new insights from science to help with a wide range of SDGs, INCLUDING the goal of survival of our species as one of the key goals which needs to be represented and addressed in a solid scientific way.
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Many of us are eager to help as best we can, even if it must be informal for now, simply because we care about the future of our species. I personally was excited when you added a focus on how quantum technology might help with climate issues, because that is a highly specialized and demanding area where I have a unique comparative advantage, knowing how it actually works. (Attached is the one page abstract, with links, to the plenary talk I gave last July, as I received the Frank Rosenblatt Award, IEEE's highest technical fields award for areas led by the IEEE WCCI conference reviewed in the abstract.) <div><br /></div><div>I am cc'ing the world President of the IEEE, which is extremely important as a source of input and suggestions to your new networks. </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: medium;"> To begin with, I propose that the science input to UN start out by adding a new highly focused effort to address the six grand challenges (four existential threats and two hopes) in the jpeg attached.</span></b> Guterres' major new thrust on our common heritage actually began when he and Kerry appeared on TV and before the Security Council, calling for a new office in the human security group under the security council, to address the risk of climate extinction. That goal was before its time, because no one had prepared the groundwork enough, but that goal should not be forgotten. At the start of 2009, the year when I handled climate issues for Senator Specter, I did not yet know that climate change really is an existential threat, but when I returned to NSF I learned just how real it is, working with the world's real scientific leaders on ocean currents; for a brief but well supported summary, see https://build-a-world.org/doku.php?id=climate:risks . </div><div><br /></div><div> How could quantum technology be used here to make a real difference in climate outcomes? Many, many people try to find clever, clear little ways to use AI or quantum technology to be "relevant" in some sense, but if we focus directly on how to have maximum real benefit for minimum cost, we end up with a VERY different story from what comes out of those efforts (or from the EU and Biden stakeholder systems, biased towards vested interests and older technologies.). Some stakeholders point to misleading imputed data, like the CO2 data imputed to the commercial building sector, which is mainly due to making the electricity USED in that sector. <b>In primary data, making electricity and transportation actually account for over 80% of the new CO2 from the US. That is why breakthroughs in those two sectors are the most urgent unmet opportunity. </b></div><div><br /></div><div>New quantum technology is most important in the next decade or two because of how it allows a revolution in the management and distribution of electricity, from the global transmission level all the way down to the control of power electronics. That in turn would expand the opportunities which already exist for much greater use of large-scale solar farms, using new technology, WITHOUT the doubling or multiplication by ten which Von Der Leyen has been told is necessary with renewable electricity. </div><div><br /></div><div>The coming decade would be much less painful to the EU (and to economies dependent on the EU, like Africa) if people at her level had full access to the real menu of proven new technologies and market design NOW AVAILABLE from the IEEE community.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1acZRpjyjCLoQuqzJef74e0cmHeyoKJdr?usp=sharing
Again, new technologies and market designs already exist for electric power management which would benefit EU and Africa IN THIS DECADE; the new quantum options, which go far beyond the capabilities of anyone using quantum Turing machines (>99% of the quantum computing experts in the US) can take it even further. </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: medium;">True Quantum Artificial General Intelligence (QAGI) is most important in the coming decade because of how it can help with the FIRST existential threat on my list, the complex of threats related to changes in internet/AGI/IOT far greater than most laymen begin to appreciate. </span></b>For example, it could allow an open, global development of "quantum bromium" to detect backdoors in computer chips and boards, one of the two really big new threats mentioned in the IEEE EPC paper attached.
Many believe that the threat of a veto from China, due to inertia by lower level diplomats representing China, was the reason why Gueterres and Kerry had to back off from doing anything about climate extinction. But Xi himself put out a major policy pronouncement a few years ago, repeated in a post from the Foreign Ministry of China, urging the world to work together for new arrangements on internet, to prevent the worst, and specifically to create open transparent systems to cut back on backdoors in hardware and software! </div><div><br /></div><div>M<b><span style="font-size: medium;">Y proposal, for an expanded office to address ALL FOUR key existential threats, would directly address an important valid high priority of Xi himself. </span></b>Your efforts (which I hope all of us can support) could provide the new solid networks needed to make such an office really work.
Just FYI, the President of Kazakhstan recently proposed new efforts on the biotech cluster of threats, which would also fit here. Perhaps HE could support this proposal as well. Many of us also know how the impressive work of Alibeck (who visited my area of Virginia a few years ago) supports his claim of real scientific strength. </div><div><br /></div><div><b><span style="font-size: medium;"> In the end, I now view the entire system of life, mind and soul in our solar system as a system VERY similar to a small, young fish in an aquarium.</span></b> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhuw_VHkgLeNg6aYw2KMasDOFtjoethQDPVG16cXY4c_FmWG16joQtWMz_6RZgzbJNs_djaX_sfKn9AEXwRORR1MUNB2lmwBFycxBFkEoeHCtiY9WEydKk58YU-2GYU-Zg4IBtt5o-RbjYCY7kQ6Nowj7N9ZmBr0M23-VTegEpFO1nqF-unjwQQTqF6/s400/aquarium.webp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="300" data-original-width="400" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhuw_VHkgLeNg6aYw2KMasDOFtjoethQDPVG16cXY4c_FmWG16joQtWMz_6RZgzbJNs_djaX_sfKn9AEXwRORR1MUNB2lmwBFycxBFkEoeHCtiY9WEydKk58YU-2GYU-Zg4IBtt5o-RbjYCY7kQ6Nowj7N9ZmBr0M23-VTegEpFO1nqF-unjwQQTqF6/s320/aquarium.webp" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgZdktLlkszqkwGQ-hb7sOMUiCdZG84ndyR1vEaEttewuMFFNrnQSxhjnmGqLwZhq3QVw-ID8swwZRmb-4AO1AK0TtMiSyYIRlOuJGlHRkMvt73Qr-OrTeVPYlDlhOyBtOTECXy-CNOy9dgsKvLhmxczjyyDF9MIMDeq6WRcRqEClSOFVv7PHi3dSX/s463/dark_matter.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="333" data-original-width="463" height="230" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgZdktLlkszqkwGQ-hb7sOMUiCdZG84ndyR1vEaEttewuMFFNrnQSxhjnmGqLwZhq3QVw-ID8swwZRmb-4AO1AK0TtMiSyYIRlOuJGlHRkMvt73Qr-OrTeVPYlDlhOyBtOTECXy-CNOy9dgsKvLhmxczjyyDF9MIMDeq6WRcRqEClSOFVv7PHi3dSX/s320/dark_matter.PNG" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>The actual new photo of our cosmos next to it is just a view of the ACTUAL aquarium we are swimming in,
a vast pulsing network ("ocean" or delta) of matter and energy, in which even the galaxies appear as glowing dots.
I would pray for new efforts to try to get greater resolution in these photos, perhaps by exploring new uses and deployments of the
new technology for axial HIggs detection on a tabletop, but by other efforts with hope of scaling.
As a little fish in a gigantic aquarium, we the people of earth may have little chance of being one of the ones which actually survives, given the very serious real threats before us. But if we are true to our deepest impulses from nature, we will fully and energetically express our three overarching priorities -- to survive, to grow and to better understand the larger aquarium we must try to survive and grow in. The six grand challenges here reflect our deepest inner drive to survive and grow, as a whole being,
but the understanding is also a priority, and also within your scope. That is why I also attach the slides for a 20 minute talk I recently gave to Bangalore, invited by Come Carpentier, supported by the INdia Foundation, including a Cabinet minister of India who is strongly committed to this kind of growth and might be important to what you are building. </div><div>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIAtE4ydjN0</div><div><br /></div><div> Best of luck to us all. We all need it. </div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8287908908466755122.post-11647937498027590112022-09-15T05:46:00.004-07:002022-09-19T05:22:53.092-07:00An image of our noosphere and cosmos, aka God AND BORG<p> <span style="font-size: large;">A few of us know, from the very best science now available, that the lives of all us humans and all related life on earth, really is in serious danger in this century due to climate effects explained in the "Preface" file on the</span><span style="font-size: large;"> </span><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://build-a-world.org&source=gmail&ust=1663331880866000&usg=AOvVaw279NG1IhC8kDCaeu-lkzHR" href="http://build-a-world.org/" style="color: #1155cc; font-size: large;" target="_blank">build-a-world.org</a><span style="font-size: large;"> </span><span style="font-size: large;">site. (See the Six Challenges slide below.) The lead authors of the preface are the world's very top scientists on mass extinctions and ocean currents, though we have also reached out to the other top scientists as well.) Current global climate policies are mostly just making the dangers worse!</span></p><p><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVAN0J6C1MbmyAr63P7pgzEWGOfoAdI_UIOGBgFVep3C_Zi8yqZmJsAf6OVSwqXBoVE4Sc1Rr3uIUCXH23LyG4z5I5Lrr1grY0xXT2nGRbKh5zgTdV_dIiHC7XkOy2PqI7Y-fhvDyNpr72QLm-0OV1rup418pGCWjiSvAtEMgSWb5DQVkD6cSlk-LG/s720/SixChallenges_hopes_and_fear.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="540" data-original-width="720" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVAN0J6C1MbmyAr63P7pgzEWGOfoAdI_UIOGBgFVep3C_Zi8yqZmJsAf6OVSwqXBoVE4Sc1Rr3uIUCXH23LyG4z5I5Lrr1grY0xXT2nGRbKh5zgTdV_dIiHC7XkOy2PqI7Y-fhvDyNpr72QLm-0OV1rup418pGCWjiSvAtEMgSWb5DQVkD6cSlk-LG/s320/SixChallenges_hopes_and_fear.jpg" width="320" /></a></p><p><span style="font-size: large;">When I start my morning asking what my priorities are for the day, I am reminded that they will all amount to nothing if we all just die. Even "our souls in heaven", our traces in the noosphere of our solar system, will dissolve away if that entire noosphere dies. Yes, the cosmos we live in (depicted by the "dark matter" photograph of our universe attached) is much bigger than that, BUT WE HUMANS live as part of OUR solar system, and of the noosphere of our solar system.</span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">TO SURVIVE WE NEED TO "CULTIVATE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS," and always remember who we really are and where we fit.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Traditional Buddhist and Shinto homes in Japan and elsewhere all maintain small shrines, where they meditate and try to remember who they are. My Bavarian grandmother did something similar with a statue of Jesus on the cross. And in truth, my grandson also benefits from an image of Maxwell's Laws hanging on their wall. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqaMoSEZjepNUUQIkMapHQwA2W-fMYTlkaqEEmMEqTV6YgY8ElTLR62xfoeqp_bSJBC0NJk-c-BijySrYctIqu1EVWAheTc4Q2sQJ92Z1DXNDVaNY0hJNNiUVdu-IVqMBFfjJ2T313AOQADbaRBoJQvE3AtOmKs1uKMhWOwwvlLV3FVXH3mC8kbBmR/s400/aquarium.webp" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="300" data-original-width="400" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqaMoSEZjepNUUQIkMapHQwA2W-fMYTlkaqEEmMEqTV6YgY8ElTLR62xfoeqp_bSJBC0NJk-c-BijySrYctIqu1EVWAheTc4Q2sQJ92Z1DXNDVaNY0hJNNiUVdu-IVqMBFfjJ2T313AOQADbaRBoJQvE3AtOmKs1uKMhWOwwvlLV3FVXH3mC8kbBmR/w292-h320/aquarium.webp" width="292" /></a></div><br /><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-QFWUj4CaMdvJ4uAnyF9MVXlWUXhLZ4QLldIFIBOvzpK9KyplE8UROpvGn03JgQzjldt51usvYE-P7wVawcQ5m8JOzX6kmJBVMPMtBSO9f8cWzzJCwxQquzTjO_vjPZIcDy4EGV_AFM-kHoGtSi13G15xFpv8CPZ8Bjktoh7Sa5wGjy9xhWW2IwdQ/s463/dark_matter.PNG" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="333" data-original-width="463" height="230" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-QFWUj4CaMdvJ4uAnyF9MVXlWUXhLZ4QLldIFIBOvzpK9KyplE8UROpvGn03JgQzjldt51usvYE-P7wVawcQ5m8JOzX6kmJBVMPMtBSO9f8cWzzJCwxQquzTjO_vjPZIcDy4EGV_AFM-kHoGtSi13G15xFpv8CPZ8Bjktoh7Sa5wGjy9xhWW2IwdQ/s320/dark_matter.PNG" width="320" /></a></div><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">IN THAT SPIRIT, I really wish that the two images attached (fishtank and universe) could be combined into a long collage, which could be printed and used as a kind of shrine, an image we should all remember every day. An image of who we are. An image to support the kind of situational awareness, of the situation we are all part of. Each of us has different priorities and connections to specific people and life WITHIN that noosphere (as do brain cells within a brain), but we are all PART of that same large system, which is now at risk. To survive, we need BALANCE, attention and harmonization of all levels of our life from the toes (and the covids) to what is shown in these images.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I am especially grateful to the spiritual forces which led my parents to install a small fish tank in my bedroom when I was 3 years old, an image which helped encourage me both to learn more science and to be alert to our larger situation.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">One aspect of what we see in the fishtank is that MOST LITTLE FISH DO NOT LIVE TO ADULTHOOD. Nature endows them (like us) with intelligence, instinct and soul which fight for life, which never give up, without which the species would not exist at all. But most do not make it, even so. They fight for life despite that -- with a higher probability of success if they achieve a higher level both of awareness and of positive will, growing step by step as best they can, learning balances and rebalances. It is up to US -- we, the people who make up the core of this noosphere -- to fight for our survival (and growth). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">And what of our Father in Heaven, whom Yeshua often rightly refers to?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I have often connected to old cultures of the earth, where parents of humans (whose numbers work out better than little fish) do their very best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">with powerful love and intelligent guidance, to help their children or even children of their tribe or village. But they also respect certain rules or limits. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Children must learn some things themselves, lest they simply die off later taking others with them. Our Father in Heaven, like Jung's Spirit of the Deep,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">can help us, and we are well advised to accept and respect that help, but it is up to us to forever do the best WE can, each of us as a function of our situation and potential for personal growth in contributing to the larger situation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Work is needed in many areas... including support for networks, connections, software platforms, and institutions which support this work, including better focusing on this big picture and all that it requires of us. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The aquarium metaphor has SEVERAL important uses, to support the kind of full-person thinking we need to be effective here. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">There is our solar system noosphere as a growing small fish. But there is also us, like me as a three year old, thinking "I have an aquarium," watching and taking care of it, even as my parents played a crucial role both in teaching me and in keeping it from crashing. And yes, the sustainability of life in our oceans is certainly also part it. Even the electricity to keep the pumps going. A fitting shrine, for a person or a family.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">===========================================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Added two days later:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><div class="ii gt" id=":59b" jslog="20277; u014N:xr6bB; 4:W251bGwsbnVsbCxbXV0." style="background-color: white; color: #222222; direction: ltr; font-family: "Google Sans", Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0.875rem; margin: 8px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;"><div class="a3s aiL" id=":5ns" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; line-height: 1.5; overflow: hidden;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">People on this list have cited many views about death and afterlife. The past two weeks have hit me hard on</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">that subject, as people like Queen Elizabeth, Gorbachev, Jean-Luc Goddard and my closest friend in the local Quaker Meetings...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">all raised the Death Questions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Because of strange circumstances, I have paid about equal attention for weeks to local Quakers, Episcopalians</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">(on George Washington land!), and inner circle Mormons. People tend to assume that these folks follow the Dante kind of picture, where everybody stays the same but goes to different places, different squares on the same gameboard.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">I was very bemused when I received an email from Episcopalians citing BCP (Book of Common Prayer):</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">==============================<wbr></wbr>==</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">Reader: Give to the departed eternal rest.<br />People: Let light perpetual shine upon them.<br /><br />Reader: We praise you for your saints who have<br />entered into joy;<br />People: May we also come to share in your<br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">==============================<wbr></wbr>==============================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">NOTICE! Some folks have "eternal rest", they say, while others ... join the folks who continue work, like the guy whose funeral I attended today (fitting the photo attached). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">This does fit the heretical model described at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.werbos.com/mind_brain_soul.htm&source=gmail&ust=1663541223072000&usg=AOvVaw21Q0wTdRSGGBoHfgtS2nG0" href="https://www.werbos.com/mind_brain_soul.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.werbos.com/<wbr></wbr>mind_brain_soul.htm</a>. If our "souls" are domains in our local noobrain...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color: black; font-size: large;">like collections of brain cells... SOME grow in connection and activity, while others may fade like old memories, like the images you see in the Disney cartoon "Coco," which should not be underestimated. We have a choice... many choices. </div></div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="adL"></div></div></div><div class="hq gt a10" id=":5qm" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #222222; font-family: "Google Sans", Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0.875rem; margin: 15px 0px;"></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">=======================================================</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><h4 style="font-size: large; text-align: left;"><b>FOR THE NEUROSCIENTIST WANTING A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, </b><b>I POSTED:</b></h4><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Yesterday I posted images of noosphere and cosmos, and six challenges, which I wish we all could keep coming back to EVERY morning, as we start the day. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">I did not expect to say more the next day, because things lower in the structure might detract from what needs to be fundamental and invariant,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">and also because some of you might have important thoughts.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">However -- I did receive some papers yesterday on the amygdala and other brain structures, related to my own personal efforts deep in this larger world, important enough to pass on, at least for those of you interested in the mammal brain.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The "spirit of the deep", represented or reflected in the photo of dark matter connecting the galaxies of our cosmos, is of course much bigger than us, and bigger than our entire solar system and noosphere. BUT IT IS REFLECTED IN A WAY (like reflections shown in many Escher prints) in the deep structures of mammal brains. For us humans, "sanity" entails thoughts or connections in our neocortex (and the neocortex of our noosphere) which accurately articulate the more permanent, deep but nonverbal sources of primary affect -- a type of "qi" or "psychic energy" or charisma, modulated backpropagation -- which drive our brains (and our souls within the noosphere). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">So what ARE those deep structures within our mammal brains, and how do they connect to practical science and technology of the brain, like the papers they showed me yesterday? The brain image I sent you yesterday was used in Werbos and Davis (<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/&source=gmail&ust=1663676310548000&usg=AOvVaw1p0wCoIzfsaKricMW7qdxi" href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00097/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://www.frontiersin.org/<wbr></wbr>articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.<wbr></wbr>00097/</a>), which went much further.... </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">But Karl Pribram and I had much deeper discussions of these structures. I know more about climate now than I do about those deep structures, but I do remember something...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Crudely speaking, there are FOUR crucial deep brain structures important here -- hypothalamus (U1?), epithalamus (U2?), amygdala (lambda1?)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">and mammillary bodies (lambda2? or U3?). THE FOUR GREAT FEARS in my attachments are reflected, TO SOME DEGREE), in amygdala, which Pribram saw as the primary center or destination.integrator of primary fears in the brain. But where are great hopes? The mammillary bodies have a role in primary love and hope. (Again, I apologize I have not integrated a review of what is really known about this.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Even lower mammals have a challenge in their neocortex to represent or articulate WHAT THEY HOPE FOR AND WHAT THEY FEAR, even when they do not articulate things in words. Pribram noted we must be careful in reading Freud (as in Pribram's book on Freud published by Gill) because even Freud might switch from discussing the nonverbal ariculations in neocortex with the verbal articulations, two ways to define "ego". </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">But these issues of balancing survival and growth, hope and fear, are reflected deep in our brains, and at all levels of life, even for our noosphere itself.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">THERE IS ANOTHER REFLECTION HERE (like a pun!):</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">ONE of the four great fears threatening the existence of the human species is listed as "misuse of biotech" on the six challenges slide.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">That deserves more than just one part of one line! If Secretary General Guterres ever succeeds in setting up an intelligently structured Office of Existential Threats in the UN, I have been stressing that misuse of biotechs demands an entire division in that office! (That is why I cc the covid list here, as they have sent information important to that possibility.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Direct brain stimulation (DBS, electronic or chemical or optogenetic) APPLIED to any of these deep brain structures is one of the important sources of existential threat to our species in itself. It can convert humans into robots, in effect, as depicted in some sad scenes in some of the Star Wars movies.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">"Fear the amygdala!" (OK, that's a joke. But a serious one.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">One of my last acts at NSF was to attend a major interagency conference organized by </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/khargonekar/&source=gmail&ust=1663676310549000&usg=AOvVaw1LPWFiWeQk1LNdc2usXDZN" href="https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/khargonekar/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/<wbr></wbr>khargonekar/</a>, then in charge of all Engineering research at NSF and close to Congressman Lamar Smith, who ordered a major redirection of NSF at the time. The conference was on new directions and uses of DBS. (I have slides and a paper which I should post somewhere for anyone interested.) Work to use DBS to create armies of compliant soldiers, bypassing inborn human motivation circuits, as in the Star Wars movies, was a major emphasis, and I myself was asked to join the team to make it happen that way. (That was one of the reasons I retired.) I will never forget the speaker who got up and said "We ARE the Borg, and you WILL be assimilated, and resistance WILL be futile." I will never forget the energetic young science assistant who was horrified, and then moved to FDA, where she was ordered to approve the use and dissemination of these technologies because... well, the same new stakeholder system which biases climate policy also biases some approvals.... <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Best of luck.... </div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" /></div></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default adL" style="font-size: large;"><br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" /></div>Dr. PaulJohnWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10549396970301158882noreply@blogger.com0